Re: Apple is backing away from Java

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by rickmoen

1/29/03 3:30:29 PM

Re: Apple is backing away from Java

Well, that's good. If so, it's an about-face from their earlier direction, which powerfully ticked off my wife and a large number of other Cocoa developers.

Objective-C is very nice, indeed. I wish it would catch on in place of all that C++ hideousness.

Rick Moen
rick@linuxmafia.com

If you lived here, you'd be $HOME already.

The push to Advanced Server begins - (Andrew Grygus) - (117) - Jan. 28, 2003, 06:41:53 AM EST

Shrug. - (pwhysall) - (5) - Jan. 28, 2003, 07:26:28 AM EST

Not a solution for all . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (4) - Jan. 28, 2003, 11:04:38 AM EST

It's probably 99% - (kmself) - (3) - Jan. 28, 2003, 01:44:19 PM EST

Of course it'll run fine on other distros . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - Jan. 28, 2003, 02:08:54 PM EST

I have run into the same issues on support contracts - (boxley) - Jan. 28, 2003, 02:39:14 PM EST

It's a free market - (kmself) - Jan. 28, 2003, 02:39:43 PM EST

Re: The push to Advanced Server begins - (rickmoen) - (84) - Jan. 28, 2003, 01:04:05 PM EST

Re: The push to Advanced Server begins - (Andrew Grygus) - (83) - Jan. 28, 2003, 02:40:35 PM EST

Right on, Andrew. - (tseliot) - (22) - Jan. 28, 2003, 04:22:46 PM EST

Oh great, here come the cheerleaders - (rickmoen) - (21) - Jan. 28, 2003, 08:52:50 PM EST

come on Rick have you ever, never met a client - (boxley) - (4) - Jan. 28, 2003, 09:20:09 PM EST

Re: come on Rick have you ever, never met a client - (rickmoen) - (3) - Jan. 28, 2003, 10:26:59 PM EST

Thanks, my point is customers will not stray from - (boxley) - (2) - Jan. 28, 2003, 10:41:25 PM EST

Re: Thanks, my point is customers will not stray from - (rickmoen) - (1) - Jan. 28, 2003, 10:49:10 PM EST

Sorry I think we are badly miscommunicating, forget it -NT - (boxley) - Jan. 28, 2003, 10:54:23 PM EST

You're in an alternate reality - (tonytib) - (7) - Jan. 28, 2003, 09:32:52 PM EST

Re: You're in an alternate reality - (rickmoen) - (3) - Jan. 28, 2003, 10:41:14 PM EST

No, you keep missing the point - (tonytib) - (1) - Jan. 29, 2003, 12:20:47 AM EST

Re: No, you keep missing the point - (rickmoen) - Jan. 29, 2003, 10:18:09 AM EST

How to intentionally miss a point (new thread) - (drewk) - Jan. 29, 2003, 08:52:34 AM EST

Re: You're in an alternate reality - (deSitter) - (2) - Jan. 29, 2003, 05:14:07 AM EST

Vertical market vs horizontal - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Jan. 29, 2003, 05:56:36 AM EST

Nice description. - (static) - Jan. 31, 2003, 05:24:11 AM EST

Oh great, here comes the one-man-band. - (tseliot) - (7) - Jan. 29, 2003, 03:07:02 PM EST

Re: Oh great, here comes the one-man-band. - (rickmoen) - (6) - Jan. 29, 2003, 03:43:36 PM EST

Will, should, doesn't matter. - (tseliot) - (5) - Jan. 29, 2003, 04:37:28 PM EST

Re: Will, should, doesn't matter. - (rickmoen) - (4) - Jan. 29, 2003, 05:22:10 PM EST

Small gain, indeed. - (tseliot) - (3) - Jan. 29, 2003, 06:22:28 PM EST

Re: Small gain, indeed. - (rickmoen) - (2) - Jan. 29, 2003, 09:17:50 PM EST

Apology: - (tseliot) - (1) - Jan. 31, 2003, 12:22:12 AM EST

Think nothing of it. - (rickmoen) - Jan. 31, 2003, 12:25:31 AM EST

Re: The push to Advanced Server begins - (deSitter) - (59) - Jan. 29, 2003, 04:43:35 AM EST

Software drive OS selection - (tuberculosis) - (58) - Jan. 29, 2003, 08:09:56 AM EST

Total agreement - (tonytib) - (56) - Jan. 29, 2003, 11:25:47 AM EST

Re: Total agreement - (rickmoen) - (2) - Jan. 29, 2003, 11:39:11 AM EST

Apple is backing away from Java - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Jan. 29, 2003, 03:10:20 PM EST

Re: Apple is backing away from Java - (rickmoen) - Jan. 29, 2003, 03:30:29 PM EST

The Software Desert - (Andrew Grygus) - (52) - Jan. 29, 2003, 01:20:56 PM EST

Re: The Software Desert - (rickmoen) - (51) - Jan. 29, 2003, 01:54:33 PM EST

It's people like you that do more harm than good - (tonytib) - (2) - Jan. 29, 2003, 02:35:03 PM EST

Re: It's people like you that do more harm than good - (rickmoen) - (1) - Jan. 29, 2003, 02:59:07 PM EST

Nope, you're a troll...or an idiot (can't read, can't answer -NT - (tonytib) - Jan. 29, 2003, 03:39:49 PM EST

LDAP? - (tuberculosis) - (2) - Jan. 29, 2003, 03:33:49 PM EST

Give it up, he hasn't learned to read yet -NT - (tonytib) - Jan. 29, 2003, 03:40:42 PM EST

Well I suppose you could always use Radius for CM - (boxley) - Jan. 29, 2003, 03:59:31 PM EST

Well, i's pretty evident . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (43) - Jan. 29, 2003, 04:43:49 PM EST

Re: Well, i's pretty evident . . - (rickmoen) - (42) - Jan. 29, 2003, 05:30:55 PM EST

Lemme second an opinion... - (bepatient) - (33) - Jan. 29, 2003, 06:07:34 PM EST

Re: Lemme second an opinion... - (rickmoen) - (32) - Jan. 29, 2003, 09:26:09 PM EST

Generally it is safe to presume . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (18) - Jan. 29, 2003, 10:24:20 PM EST

Re: Generally it is safe to presume . . . - (rickmoen) - (17) - Jan. 29, 2003, 10:35:34 PM EST

It's the height of arrogance . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (16) - Jan. 29, 2003, 11:19:08 PM EST

Re: It's the height of arrogance . . - (rickmoen) - (15) - Jan. 29, 2003, 11:45:03 PM EST

Your ability to descend into absurdity is truly amazing! - (Andrew Grygus) - (14) - Jan. 30, 2003, 12:38:32 AM EST

Ow.... - (folkert) - (13) - Jan. 30, 2003, 09:19:06 AM EST

Re: Ow.... - (rickmoen) - (12) - Jan. 30, 2003, 03:39:59 PM EST

Simple Question - (deSitter) - (11) - Jan. 30, 2003, 04:29:06 PM EST

Remember to include - (imric) - Jan. 30, 2003, 04:40:15 PM EST

ps. Of course - (imric) - Jan. 30, 2003, 04:42:53 PM EST

call Andrew and get his -NT - (boxley) - (2) - Jan. 30, 2003, 05:00:17 PM EST

OK - (pwhysall) - (1) - Jan. 30, 2003, 05:04:01 PM EST

Sorry, Desit asked for replacement of Great Plains - (boxley) - Jan. 30, 2003, 05:43:43 PM EST

AppGen - (folkert) - (5) - Jan. 30, 2003, 08:50:41 PM EST

Re: AppGen - (deSitter) - (2) - Jan. 30, 2003, 10:01:04 PM EST

Yes... it does work. - (folkert) - Jan. 30, 2003, 10:19:02 PM EST

Give the Gryg a call I am sure he would be willing to answer - (boxley) - Jan. 30, 2003, 10:21:57 PM EST

Appgen Custom Suite . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Jan. 30, 2003, 11:12:46 PM EST

Yes... all three... - (folkert) - Jan. 31, 2003, 12:03:24 AM EST

Damn, now ACT! is an OS??? - (bepatient) - (12) - Jan. 30, 2003, 06:34:56 AM EST

Re: Damn, now ACT! is an OS??? - (rickmoen) - (11) - Jan. 30, 2003, 07:28:15 AM EST

Figured as much. - (bepatient) - (10) - Jan. 30, 2003, 08:07:31 AM EST

Re: Figured as much. - (rickmoen) - (9) - Jan. 30, 2003, 03:31:06 PM EST

You didn't? - (bepatient) - (8) - Jan. 30, 2003, 06:42:41 PM EST

With apologies... - (admin) - (3) - Jan. 30, 2003, 06:48:18 PM EST

Ahh, the good ole days - (boxley) - Jan. 30, 2003, 06:58:20 PM EST

Oh dear... - (bepatient) - Jan. 30, 2003, 08:41:06 PM EST

I have a bad feeling about that... - (static) - Jan. 31, 2003, 05:31:11 AM EST

Re: You didn't? - (rickmoen) - (3) - Jan. 30, 2003, 11:36:39 PM EST

Maybe my universal translator is broken. - (bepatient) - (2) - Jan. 31, 2003, 12:10:33 PM EST

Re: Maybe my universal translator is broken. - (rickmoen) - (1) - Jan. 31, 2003, 04:29:18 PM EST

whatever -NT - (bepatient) - Jan. 31, 2003, 10:16:10 PM EST

Sorry buddy - can't stick with Windows . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (7) - Jan. 29, 2003, 06:35:52 PM EST

AppGen... - (folkert) - (2) - Jan. 29, 2003, 07:14:36 PM EST

My Appgen experience is with . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Jan. 29, 2003, 07:31:15 PM EST

Yeah... that's the one... - (folkert) - Jan. 29, 2003, 07:49:53 PM EST

Re: Sorry buddy - can't stick with Windows . . - (rickmoen) - Jan. 29, 2003, 09:31:33 PM EST

Re: Sorry buddy - can't stick with Windows . . - (deSitter) - (2) - Jan. 31, 2003, 01:08:50 AM EST

Appgen - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Jan. 31, 2003, 02:10:09 AM EST

Thanks... I could not have said it better... - (folkert) - Jan. 31, 2003, 07:13:59 AM EST

Did Andrew ask what you used? (new thread) - (Another Scott) - Jan. 30, 2003, 03:47:50 PM EST

As to capitalism.. - (deSitter) - Jan. 29, 2003, 03:34:35 PM EST

The push to Advanced Workstation begins - (folkert) - (9) - Jan. 30, 2003, 09:54:32 PM EST

Yup, looks like Red Hat is responding to the outcry. - (Andrew Grygus) - (8) - Jan. 30, 2003, 11:26:10 PM EST

Re: Yup, looks like Red Hat is responding to the outcry. - (rickmoen) - (7) - Jan. 30, 2003, 11:39:03 PM EST

come on squeek, there is a perfectly good flame area - (boxley) - (6) - Jan. 30, 2003, 11:48:13 PM EST

Re: come on squeek, there is a perfectly good flame area - (rickmoen) - (5) - Jan. 31, 2003, 12:20:42 AM EST

My dear squeek - (boxley) - Jan. 31, 2003, 12:36:19 AM EST

Stoop - or just low all the time? - (tuberculosis) - (3) - Jan. 31, 2003, 08:13:03 AM EST

Re: Stoop - or just low all the time? - (rickmoen) - (2) - Jan. 31, 2003, 04:24:27 PM EST

Boy you're a slow learner - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Jan. 31, 2003, 07:41:11 PM EST

Re: Boy you're a slow learner - (rickmoen) - Feb. 1, 2003, 02:04:03 AM EST

My 2 cents - (broomberg) - (15) - Feb. 1, 2003, 07:33:55 PM EST

That's why monopoly is so easy. - (Andrew Grygus) - (8) - Feb. 1, 2003, 09:48:29 PM EST

Disagree - (broomberg) - (7) - Feb. 2, 2003, 01:35:14 AM EST

No, you cannot make a choice and move on. - (Andrew Grygus) - (1) - Feb. 2, 2003, 12:52:56 PM EST

Not worthy of a response - (broomberg) - Feb. 2, 2003, 03:42:19 PM EST

I don't buy your arguement here Broom... - (folkert) - (3) - Feb. 2, 2003, 02:47:50 PM EST

Yes you do - (broomberg) - (2) - Feb. 2, 2003, 03:46:08 PM EST

What I mean by tweaking... - (folkert) - (1) - Feb. 2, 2003, 03:55:30 PM EST

See, we DO agree - (broomberg) - Feb. 2, 2003, 04:35:14 PM EST

pragmatic vs logical decision - (boxley) - Feb. 2, 2003, 04:36:20 PM EST

Re: My 2 cents - (rickmoen) - (5) - Feb. 2, 2003, 02:12:47 AM EST

Out of context - (broomberg) - (4) - Feb. 3, 2003, 12:02:25 AM EST

Re: Out of context - (rickmoen) - (3) - Feb. 3, 2003, 01:37:58 AM EST

Missed it again - (broomberg) - (2) - Feb. 3, 2003, 09:05:22 AM EST

Now hang on a minit thar buddy... - (folkert) - (1) - Feb. 3, 2003, 11:11:02 AM EST

Sorry, this thread is dead - (broomberg) - Feb. 3, 2003, 12:21:31 PM EST

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