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New Re: Interesting story on OSX being the Default UNIX workstat
Some time ago I proposed a "single user UNIX" as a Windows competitor, arguing that the extra overhead of a user context at the UI level was just as balled up on UNIX as on NT. Mainly I was hooted off the stage :)

What is the UI level user context in OS X?
-drl
New Well imagine user profiles in Windows9X...
But add being done right... well *ALMOST* right... Sophistication is on a Grand Scale in Aqua.


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New dunno how you are set up but my users on OSX
are done nix style
thanx,
bill
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New Ummm... Yeah... That is why I said...
*ALMOST* the right way... in regards to "Worse is Better"

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Heimatland Geheime Staatspolizei reminds:
These [link|http://www.whitehouse.gov/pcipb/cyberstrategy-draft.html|Civilian General Orders], please memorize them.
"Questions" will be asked at safety checkpoints.
New Let me give it a shot
There are two categories of users on an OS X desktop:

Admin: These have additional access to read/write some system files and directories but there are still a few parts of the file system that are off limits other than read-only. These users are allowed to use sudo to gain root privilege temporarily.

Non-admin: These are normal UNIX-style users. System stuff (including many preference settings such as Network) are off-limits. Non-admin users are not allowed to use sudo. These accounts can be further controlled by an Admin user to limit what apps they can run, whether they can burn CDs/DVDs, whether they can remove items from the Dock or even access the System Preferences.

You can set up a user to be logged in automatically (similar to W2K or RH 8) or require a login and password.

The root account is locked out by default. (It can be unlocked by an Admin user, however.)

Network services (http, sshd, etc.) are turned off by default.

All in all, I think Apple put a considerable amount of thought into balancing convenience versus manageability.

Tom Sinclair

"Everybody is someone else's weirdo."
- E. Dijkstra
New I want a Mac
I sense a sea change. Macs are coming. UNIX wins in the most unexpected, Brett Glassian way.
-drl
New What is the UI level user context in OS X?
If you're asking what I think you're asking...

On a newly purchased box, the user has admin privleges available via sudo.

If you're setting up a lan, you have more options. At eTranslate, we took one box and set it up as a NetInfo server and slaved all the other machines to that NetInfo server. We set it up so each user's home dir was located on a sun box with a fast raid array and nfs mounted on login. We also set up central tool directories and nfs mounted those.

Result - any developer could walk up to any machine in the place, login, and have his stuff - his colors, his environment, his directories, his shell, whatever.

It totally rocked. For the laptops, we had netinfo clone scripts that would clone the server netinfo into a local netinfo and use that if booting off the network.




I think that it's extraordinarily important that we in computer science keep fun in computing. When it started out, it was an awful lot of fun. Of course, the paying customer got shafted every now and then, and after a while we began to take their complaints seriously. We began to feel as if we really were responsible for the successful, error-free perfect use of these machines. I don't think we are. I think we're responsible for stretching them, setting them off in new directions, and keeping fun in the house. I hope the field of computer science never loses its sense of fun. Above all, I hope we don't become missionaries. Don't feel as if you're Bible salesmen. The world has too many of those already. What you know about computing other people will learn. Don't feel as if the key to successful computing is only in your hands. What's in your hands, I think and hope, is intelligence: the ability to see the machine as more than when you were first led up to it, that you can make it more.

--Alan Perlis
New Userix
A UNIX with a single login, the "user". su goes to root. There is no reason for logins from Frack when the machine belongs to Frick. One would still use process-level user context.
-drl
     Interesting story on OSX being the Default UNIX workstation - (folkert) - (11)
         Ironically MS helped with this - (tjsinclair)
         Re: Interesting story on OSX being the Default UNIX workstat - (deSitter) - (7)
             Well imagine user profiles in Windows9X... - (folkert) - (2)
                 dunno how you are set up but my users on OSX - (boxley) - (1)
                     Ummm... Yeah... That is why I said... - (folkert)
             Let me give it a shot - (tjsinclair) - (1)
                 I want a Mac - (deSitter)
             What is the UI level user context in OS X? - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                 Userix - (deSitter)
         reinventing the wheel in 1990 BP and Arco - (boxley)
         If and only if - (orion)

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