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Post #70,136

by inthane-chan

12/20/02 2:21:54 PM

Geezis, where the...

HELL have you been?

I think every single IT worker should spend 1 week/year manning the Helldesk. It will give you a vastly different view of how computers are working for the masses...

Gimli's Rules for Surviving in Middle Earth #43: When attempting to destroy an artifact, remember to use somebody else's axe.

Post #70,156

by jb4

12/20/02 4:20:13 PM

Writing embedded systems, thankyewverymuch...

...(and by "embedded systems", I don't mean Micros~1's bastardized version of the term, either. I mean real-time, event-driven systems embedded into lab tools, medical equipment, vending machines, you name it.

I don't do IT.

(Yeah, I do do Windows apps when I need to. Fortunately, I don't need to very often. With any kind of luck, I can avoid .Nyet, by sticking to embedded, and (soon) Linux app development. I've spent the last year-and-a-half doing QNX development, so I'm on my way...)

Does that make me an "ivory-tower intellectual"? Dunno...probably not. It does, however tend to isolate me from those who are completely devoid of knowledge about basic computer concepts (except, of course, for my PHB-manager types, whom I can never seem to avoid no matter what I do...).

jb4
"They lead. They don't manage. The carrot always wins over the stick. Ask your horse. You can lead your horse to water, but you can't manage him to drink."
Richard Kerr, United Technologies Corporation, 1990

Microsoft and Security - (n3jja) - (51) - Dec. 17, 2002, 11:44:28 AM EST

Re: Microsoft and Security - (Yendor) - (50) - Dec. 17, 2002, 12:16:49 PM EST

Lean forward and get your bitchslap! ;-) -NT - (n3jja) - (3) - Dec. 17, 2002, 12:46:37 PM EST

It's not even that clear cut. - (inthane-chan) - (2) - Dec. 17, 2002, 12:50:20 PM EST

Wrong - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Dec. 17, 2002, 07:05:11 PM EST

Different sections. - (inthane-chan) - Dec. 17, 2002, 09:37:00 PM EST

Re: Microsoft and Security - (andread) - (45) - Dec. 17, 2002, 01:44:32 PM EST

Theoretical Researchers . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 17, 2002, 11:53:21 PM EST

Re: Microsoft and Security - (Yendor) - (41) - Dec. 18, 2002, 03:38:20 AM EST

Sensing Deep Paranoia Here - (andread) - (40) - Dec. 18, 2002, 04:29:03 PM EST

Well, a lot of people, including whole governments . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (39) - Dec. 18, 2002, 06:33:08 PM EST

this relates to Windows Update how? -NT - (andread) - (38) - Dec. 18, 2002, 06:56:56 PM EST

How the hell do you think they'd distribute it? - (Andrew Grygus) - (37) - Dec. 18, 2002, 09:41:38 PM EST

Is 98 the last M$-OS for very many, out there? - (Ashton) - (6) - Dec. 19, 2002, 07:22:42 AM EST

Really? - (andread) - (1) - Dec. 19, 2002, 08:16:57 AM EST

Really. - (Yendor) - Dec. 19, 2002, 08:23:25 AM EST

I vote yes....conditionally - (jb4) - (3) - Dec. 19, 2002, 04:36:29 PM EST

Start with SuSE, sure. - (admin) - (2) - Dec. 19, 2002, 04:40:56 PM EST

Thanks for the Knoppix tip - (jb4) - (1) - Dec. 20, 2002, 02:07:51 PM EST

Debian is harder to configure, easier to install - (admin) - Dec. 20, 2002, 03:57:21 PM EST

And you're definition of 'it' is? - (andread) - (10) - Dec. 19, 2002, 08:20:37 AM EST

See above... - (Yendor) - Dec. 19, 2002, 08:25:50 AM EST

Home user updates? - (Andrew Grygus) - (8) - Dec. 19, 2002, 11:43:15 AM EST

Post hoc... - (andread) - (5) - Dec. 19, 2002, 04:05:19 PM EST

Bull, most businesses DO NOT have firewalls and admins. - (Andrew Grygus) - (4) - Dec. 19, 2002, 04:38:20 PM EST

good point - (andread) - Dec. 19, 2002, 08:22:34 PM EST

E-fscking-GAD! - (jb4) - (2) - Dec. 20, 2002, 02:10:56 PM EST

Geezis, where the... - (inthane-chan) - (1) - Dec. 20, 2002, 02:21:54 PM EST

Writing embedded systems, thankyewverymuch... - (jb4) - Dec. 20, 2002, 04:20:13 PM EST

So that's when it does it! - (static) - (1) - Dec. 19, 2002, 09:12:28 PM EST

Very. -NT - (inthane-chan) - Dec. 19, 2002, 09:37:29 PM EST

Give it up, guys - I done TOLE you Andy is an MS shill. -NT - (CRConrad) - (18) - Dec. 19, 2002, 11:31:36 AM EST

Well, we know that . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 19, 2002, 11:45:22 AM EST

at least you didn't call me Andrea this time, 'Charlene' -NT - (andread) - (16) - Dec. 19, 2002, 04:07:07 PM EST

And at least you didn't try to deny it this time, Andrea. -NT - (CRConrad) - (15) - Dec. 20, 2002, 09:08:01 AM EST

Tell you what - (andread) - (14) - Dec. 20, 2002, 02:02:43 PM EST

Only shows, some people are stupid enough to whore for free. -NT - (CRConrad) - (13) - Dec. 20, 2002, 04:02:57 PM EST

Curiouser and curiouser - (andread) - (11) - Dec. 21, 2002, 12:07:40 PM EST

Speaking of 'sides' - (Ashton) - (10) - Dec. 21, 2002, 05:16:41 PM EST

Microsoft's very foundation is theivery. - (Andrew Grygus) - (9) - Dec. 21, 2002, 07:00:37 PM EST

Unfortunately, Western Business runs that way. - (static) - (8) - Dec. 21, 2002, 11:27:26 PM EST

It goes a lot deeper than that - (tonytib) - Dec. 21, 2002, 11:45:35 PM EST

Western Business in the news runs that way - (Andrew Grygus) - (6) - Dec. 22, 2002, 12:55:30 AM EST

Pithy summary; still M$ is different - (Ashton) - (5) - Dec. 22, 2002, 07:30:45 AM EST

Nestle - (andread) - (4) - Dec. 22, 2002, 01:05:57 PM EST

Quite right you are.. - (Ashton) - (3) - Dec. 22, 2002, 08:21:49 PM EST

Do I dare post... - (jbrabeck) - (2) - Dec. 23, 2002, 09:40:32 AM EST

Sorry to hear that... - (jb4) - Dec. 23, 2002, 11:20:38 AM EST

Of course you do! So, have you sent your protest yet? - (CRConrad) - Dec. 26, 2002, 07:43:11 PM EST

Whores are professionals - (kmself) - Dec. 23, 2002, 03:32:15 PM EST

You're lucky - (jbrabeck) - (1) - Dec. 18, 2002, 02:56:57 PM EST

Good points - (andread) - Dec. 18, 2002, 04:30:47 PM EST

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