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Post #66,348 by Yendor 12/3/02 3:28:19 AM Reply	Agreed I'm going to partake of the "ignore" status myself -- but I'd also like to see some sort of built-in ignore feature to remove any impetus for me to read any twit's posts. I don't know what n3jja's talking about forum filters, but I want my twit filter! -YendorMike [link\|http://www.hope-ride.org/\|http://www.hope-ride.org/]
Post #66,360 by n3jja 12/3/02 7:36:15 AM Reply	Same principle as a twit filter. I don't know what n3jja's talking about forum filters, but I want my twit filter! I want the option of permanently removing certain forums from my sight. Politics, War on Terrorism, and all of the programming forums are tops on my list. There are others, but I think you get the idea.
Post #66,361 by Yendor 12/3/02 7:44:45 AM 12/3/02 7:56:51 AM Reply	So do it yourself. http://z.iwethey.org/forums/actions/forum/markForumRead?forumid=<forumID>&markstamp=9999-12-31+23:59:59.99 Replace <forumID> with the number of the forum. You can glean this number either by hovering your mouse over the "Mark Read" link on the front page, or by its use when you click on the Forum, as in http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/forum/show?forumid=1. Only issue I've found with this is that you can't use the "Mark All Forums Read" link after you mark some forums read like that, but by that point, the only thing left should be fora that you're interested in reading. And I've filed a bug/enhancement request against that so that the MAFR link checks each forum's Mark Read Date to check if it's after today, then not to update the timestamp for that forum. [Edit: backslashed the URLs per [link\|/forums/render/user?username=ben_tilly\|Ben's] suggestion.] -YendorMike [link\|http://www.hope-ride.org/\|http://www.hope-ride.org/] Edited by Yendor Dec. 3, 2002, 07:56:51 AM EST Expand All History
Post #66,365 by ben_tilly 12/3/02 7:47:58 AM Reply	No need to add a space Use a backslash. For instance to get http://z.iwethey.org/ you just have to type in http:\\//z.iwethey.org/. (This is part of the "Process HTML" bit.) Cheers, Ben "Career politicians are inherently untrustworthy; if it spends its life buzzing around the outhouse, it\ufffds probably a fly." - [link\|http://www.nationalinterest.org/issues/58/Mead.html\|Walter Mead]
Post #66,369 by Yendor 12/3/02 7:52:29 AM Reply	Good call Brainfart. -YendorMike [link\|http://www.hope-ride.org/\|http://www.hope-ride.org/]
Post #66,447 by CRConrad 12/3/02 3:43:21 PM Reply	Workaround for the "Mark All Forums Read" problem: Save your time-adjusted URLs for fora you don't want to see as bookmarks in your browser (or links on your homepage, or in a local HTML file (that you can bookmark) or something). Oh, and Ben: At least I thought Mike's explanation of the problem was "good enough" for the purpose. Christian R. Conrad Mechanisation As our souls are slowly stolen The wheels of progress keep steamrolling Mechanisation melts our minds To drive the furnace that drives us blind. -- [link\|http://www.vergenet.net/~conrad/poetry/mechanisation.html\|© Conrad Parker, 1993]
Post #66,559 by Yendor 12/4/02 3:55:10 AM Reply	Good thought; beat ya to it. Yesterday I updated and bookmarked my [link\|http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/YendorMike\|My TWiki User Page] to include just that. :) -YendorMike [link\|http://www.hope-ride.org/\|http://www.hope-ride.org/]
Post #66,565 by CRConrad 12/4/02 4:43:44 AM Reply	As SilverDon said, I have a User Page?!? The good thing about putting 'em up on a publically-accessible Web page: Now, as long as I'm logged in to zIWT, I can use those links -- in effect, all I need to do is bookmark your User Page as "The Forum-Marking Page". Cool! The bad thing about those User Pages: You() put my e-mail* up on the Web, for every goddamn spam-robot in the world to collect and abuse?!? What the FUCK were you thinking??? It's not like you clearly warned us of that on the sign-up page, either, AFAICR. :-( (): Not YendorMike, but you brain-dead loony Wikistrators. Christian R. Conrad* Mechanisation As our souls are slowly stolen The wheels of progress keep steamrolling Mechanisation melts our minds To drive the furnace that drives us blind. -- [link\|http://www.vergenet.net/~conrad/poetry/mechanisation.html\|© Conrad Parker, 1993]
Post #66,567 by bepatient 12/4/02 4:53:19 AM Reply	IIRC... ...you are the only one that can see your user page...after you sign in with your password. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #66,570 by Yendor 12/4/02 6:26:58 AM Reply	Nope... ...anyone can see his (or yours, or my) user page. But only he can edit it. And he has the editing capability to remove his e-mail address from sight so not every search engine and spammer can see, catalog, and use it. -YendorMike [link\|http://www.hope-ride.org/\|http://www.hope-ride.org/]
Post #66,571 by bepatient 12/4/02 6:31:18 AM Reply	user page or preference settings page? Because the only place my email address is listed (besides in my sig) that I know of is in the preferences page. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #66,573 by Yendor 12/4/02 6:52:04 AM Reply	Neither... ...We're talking about the [link\|http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/YendorMike\|TWiki User Page]. -YendorMike [link\|http://www.hope-ride.org/\|http://www.hope-ride.org/]
Post #66,575 by CRConrad 12/4/02 6:54:27 AM Reply	You talking ZIW here, BeeP? We're talking TWikiIWeThey...
Post #66,576 by bepatient 12/4/02 6:55:40 AM Reply	Finally figured it out You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #66,574 by CRConrad 12/4/02 6:52:26 AM Reply	Yeah, I' edited it out, NOW - but it sure would have been... ...nice to know that that bloody page existed in the first place -- then I'd have edited it out immediately. Christian R. Conrad Mechanisation As our souls are slowly stolen The wheels of progress keep steamrolling Mechanisation melts our minds To drive the furnace that drives us blind. -- [link\|http://www.vergenet.net/~conrad/poetry/mechanisation.html\|© Conrad Parker, 1993]
Post #66,578 by pwhysall 12/4/02 7:27:48 AM Reply	On spam harvesting (new thread) Created as new thread #66577 titled [link\|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=66577\|On spam harvesting] Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #66,362 by ben_tilly 12/3/02 7:45:08 AM Reply	As long as you don't click "mark all read"... You already can. Right-click on the "mark read" link. Paste that into a text editor. Edit the timestamp to be any convenient date (like a century from now), and then visit that URL. It is now pre-emptively read for the next century. :-) Cheers, Ben "Career politicians are inherently untrustworthy; if it spends its life buzzing around the outhouse, it\ufffds probably a fly." - [link\|http://www.nationalinterest.org/issues/58/Mead.html\|Walter Mead]
Post #66,363 by Yendor 12/3/02 7:46:28 AM Reply	23 seconds! -YendorMike [link\|http://www.hope-ride.org/\|http://www.hope-ride.org/]
Post #66,367 by ben_tilly 12/3/02 7:49:30 AM Reply	Yabut, better answer :-P I told him the way that the method breaks. You just described the method... Cheers, Ben "Career politicians are inherently untrustworthy; if it spends its life buzzing around the outhouse, it\ufffds probably a fly." - [link\|http://www.nationalinterest.org/issues/58/Mead.html\|Walter Mead]
Post #66,370 by Yendor 12/3/02 7:54:46 AM Reply	Nein... I gave both a proper URL (edited) and told him how it'll break. And that I filed a bug report against that breakage. :-P -YendorMike [link\|http://www.hope-ride.org/\|http://www.hope-ride.org/]
Post #66,373 by ben_tilly 12/3/02 8:18:30 AM Reply	oops Hrm. I made it more explicit about why it would break. About the feature - I consider the current behaviour correct if not always convenient. Cheers, Ben "Career politicians are inherently untrustworthy; if it spends its life buzzing around the outhouse, it\ufffds probably a fly." - [link\|http://www.nationalinterest.org/issues/58/Mead.html\|Walter Mead]
Post #66,374 by Yendor 12/3/02 8:23:03 AM Reply	Agreed About the feature - I consider the current behaviour correct if not always convenient. Agreed completely. So I guess it's more of a feature enhancement request. But I still hold hope that it'll get fixed. :) -YendorMike [link\|http://www.hope-ride.org/\|http://www.hope-ride.org/]

Call for consensus on Norm's misuse of the forums - (admin) - (126) - Dec. 1, 2002, 06:42:06 PM EST

What I would suggest - (boxley) - (5) - Dec. 1, 2002, 07:20:17 PM EST

That's not a bad idea... - (admin) - (3) - Dec. 1, 2002, 07:29:09 PM EST

Present accounts - (Ashton) - (1) - Dec. 1, 2002, 07:53:20 PM EST

I agree re: erring on the side of tolerance... - (admin) - Dec. 1, 2002, 08:11:51 PM EST

let the existing accounts ride, horse barn door etc -NT - (boxley) - Dec. 1, 2002, 08:10:37 PM EST

Was just going to suggest that :) -NT - (deSitter) - Dec. 2, 2002, 11:09:52 AM EST

Yeah, well, he is kind of a pain in the butt . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (6) - Dec. 1, 2002, 07:42:56 PM EST

Thats 2.. - (bepatient) - (4) - Dec. 1, 2002, 07:44:26 PM EST

The hardest thing. - (static) - (1) - Dec. 1, 2002, 07:49:22 PM EST

That might be an upside, for us in the US.. - (Ashton) - Dec. 1, 2002, 07:59:19 PM EST

make it 3 - (Steve Lowe) - Dec. 1, 2002, 08:01:30 PM EST

Make it 3... - (jb4) - Dec. 2, 2002, 09:56:50 AM EST

Re: reading any particular thread is entirely optional. - (admin) - Dec. 1, 2002, 08:10:44 PM EST

Scrap da stupid no-ban rule (wherever ya pulled it out from) - (CRConrad) - (8) - Dec. 1, 2002, 08:28:52 PM EST

Last time I banned someone - (admin) - (7) - Dec. 1, 2002, 09:04:31 PM EST

As the regular in question... - (ben_tilly) - (6) - Dec. 1, 2002, 10:10:12 PM EST

yahbut... - (folkert) - (1) - Dec. 1, 2002, 10:21:02 PM EST

Sounds pretty complex. - (Ashton) - Dec. 1, 2002, 10:26:29 PM EST

Ravening hordes don't count as 'bans' - (Ashton) - (3) - Dec. 1, 2002, 10:22:00 PM EST

Considering how come those "ravening hordes"(*)... - (CRConrad) - (2) - Dec. 2, 2002, 04:32:13 AM EST

Ummmm - (Ashton) - Dec. 2, 2002, 05:28:34 AM EST

One "attack" was staged, another real -NT - (admin) - Dec. 2, 2002, 08:36:18 AM EST

Relationships and/or trusts with defaults being... - (folkert) - (4) - Dec. 1, 2002, 09:40:29 PM EST

Keep It Simple, um... Sir? :P - (tseliot) - (3) - Dec. 2, 2002, 10:29:38 AM EST

Arrrgggh - from thot --> consense. Cannot live w/ this shame - (Ashton) - (2) - Dec. 2, 2002, 02:30:54 PM EST

Sorry, trying to enrich not dismantle - (tseliot) - (1) - Dec. 2, 2002, 03:10:41 PM EST

Oooohhh.. snidery - (Ashton) - Dec. 2, 2002, 03:28:53 PM EST

Couple thoughts (fixed spelling of t-word) - (tuberculosis) - (8) - Dec. 2, 2002, 06:09:07 AM EST

Aieeeeeeee! (new thread) - (pwhysall) - Dec. 2, 2002, 03:27:46 AM EST

I'm leaning towards killfiles. - (admin) - (6) - Dec. 2, 2002, 08:37:30 AM EST

I really think its the best - (tuberculosis) - (5) - Dec. 2, 2002, 10:10:51 AM EST

Oooers! - (Yendor) - Dec. 2, 2002, 10:17:22 AM EST

New Users section added to bottom of Active Users page -NT - (admin) - (3) - Dec. 2, 2002, 11:05:59 AM EST

We are not worthy - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Dec. 2, 2002, 01:02:31 PM EST

Speak for yourself; *I* sure am! :-) - (CRConrad) - Dec. 2, 2002, 01:26:11 PM EST

The [B][Sp]ork God has done YAM\ufffd! - (folkert) - Dec. 2, 2002, 02:57:13 PM EST

Re: Call for consensus on Norm's misuse of the forums - (Yendor) - Dec. 2, 2002, 04:26:06 AM EST

I'm still for ignoring his trolls. - (hnick) - (3) - Dec. 2, 2002, 07:06:40 AM EST

Well, *I* NEVER... - (folkert) - (2) - Dec. 2, 2002, 09:07:36 AM EST

The Bryce-ization of IWT continues... - (Yendor) - (1) - Dec. 2, 2002, 09:25:37 AM EST

Well... in my Defense... - (folkert) - Dec. 2, 2002, 09:31:23 AM EST

Twit filter - (drewk) - Dec. 2, 2002, 09:39:39 AM EST

Resist the urge to reply - (Silverlock) - Dec. 2, 2002, 10:04:08 AM EST

After reading all posts... - (Arkadiy) - (24) - Dec. 2, 2002, 11:36:19 AM EST

One problem with that: - (inthane-chan) - (17) - Dec. 2, 2002, 11:48:09 AM EST

Not sure what you mean by crossbar but - (tseliot) - (16) - Dec. 2, 2002, 11:51:53 AM EST

Only filled on demand. - (admin) - (15) - Dec. 2, 2002, 11:54:35 AM EST

yabut - (tseliot) - (4) - Dec. 2, 2002, 11:58:45 AM EST

Re: yabut - (admin) - (3) - Dec. 2, 2002, 12:00:14 PM EST

*snort* sounds like we need a requirements doc. - (tseliot) - Dec. 2, 2002, 12:05:13 PM EST

Also... - (pwhysall) - (1) - Dec. 2, 2002, 12:14:20 PM EST

No need for that, is there really? - (CRConrad) - Dec. 2, 2002, 01:52:51 PM EST

Yes.... THAT's it... - (folkert) - (9) - Dec. 2, 2002, 12:03:44 PM EST

Hey.. - (Steve Lowe) - Dec. 2, 2002, 12:08:12 PM EST

Time and the Other - (tseliot) - (7) - Dec. 2, 2002, 12:13:30 PM EST

I don't like it anymore - (folkert) - (6) - Dec. 2, 2002, 12:33:57 PM EST

Yes, yes I would have. - (tseliot) - (4) - Dec. 2, 2002, 12:54:15 PM EST

<SIGH> ... That old nonsense concept again. :-( - (CRConrad) - (1) - Dec. 2, 2002, 02:01:00 PM EST

Hey, that's *my* point! :D - (tseliot) - Dec. 2, 2002, 02:27:10 PM EST

Fine - so you get a sliding lever: "From Now --> Eternity" - (Ashton) - (1) - Dec. 2, 2002, 02:53:39 PM EST

Thanks. That's exactly what I wanted. - (tseliot) - Dec. 2, 2002, 03:04:29 PM EST

that's why I want him shown locked - (tuberculosis) - Dec. 2, 2002, 01:07:31 PM EST

Interesting... - (admin) - (5) - Dec. 2, 2002, 11:50:07 AM EST

My preference - (drewk) - (3) - Dec. 2, 2002, 11:54:47 AM EST

ZIWT Artists! - (pwhysall) - (1) - Dec. 2, 2002, 11:59:46 AM EST

Quick search presents: - (folkert) - Dec. 2, 2002, 12:25:07 PM EST

Believe this is the best way - (tseliot) - Dec. 2, 2002, 12:03:49 PM EST

Indeed - (Arkadiy) - Dec. 2, 2002, 02:59:21 PM EST

Vote for ignoring. - (inthane-chan) - (12) - Dec. 2, 2002, 12:25:21 PM EST

Re: Vote for ignoring. - (admin) - (11) - Dec. 2, 2002, 12:29:04 PM EST

I concur. - (inthane-chan) - Dec. 2, 2002, 12:34:00 PM EST

Well, isn't that the most bass-ackwards idea I ever saw... - (CRConrad) - (8) - Dec. 2, 2002, 02:10:15 PM EST

When you put it That way.. - (Ashton) - (7) - Dec. 2, 2002, 03:23:24 PM EST

Why should Scott have to do ANY work? - (Silverlock) - (6) - Dec. 2, 2002, 03:33:53 PM EST

That is EXACTLY RIGHT! -NT - (jb4) - Dec. 2, 2002, 06:25:56 PM EST

Amen. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Dec. 2, 2002, 09:22:45 PM EST

That's a Bingo! -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - Dec. 2, 2002, 09:25:40 PM EST

10-4 good buddy! -NT - (bepatient) - Dec. 2, 2002, 10:43:40 PM EST

It just takes one to bite.. er Greg? ummm never mind. - (Ashton) - (1) - Dec. 3, 2002, 04:32:28 AM EST

Yeah...right...er, what he said... - (jb4) - Dec. 3, 2002, 10:06:59 AM EST

I did... and have had... - (folkert) - Dec. 2, 2002, 03:24:13 PM EST

Ignore him/them -NT - (altmann) - Dec. 2, 2002, 04:20:51 PM EST

Bidirectional twit "cease to exist" proposal - (kmself) - (12) - Dec. 2, 2002, 06:17:11 PM EST

Re: Bidirectional twit "cease to exist" proposal - (admin) - Dec. 2, 2002, 06:23:28 PM EST

Have to oppose on philosophical grounds. - (Ashton) - (10) - Dec. 3, 2002, 04:56:00 AM EST

Concur. -NT - (pwhysall) - Dec. 3, 2002, 07:47:29 AM EST

Concur as well. - (inthane-chan) - (8) - Dec. 3, 2002, 11:18:36 AM EST

So don't filter anyone. -NT - (Yendor) - (7) - Dec. 3, 2002, 11:23:49 AM EST

It's about having the tool availible. - (inthane-chan) - (6) - Dec. 3, 2002, 11:28:44 AM EST

What if there were several options - (admin) - (3) - Dec. 3, 2002, 11:34:06 AM EST

Then - - - - (Ashton) - (2) - Dec. 3, 2002, 07:14:08 PM EST

Only for the person doing the filtering - (admin) - (1) - Dec. 3, 2002, 07:17:08 PM EST

Awomen to that. -NT - (Ashton) - Dec. 3, 2002, 08:08:35 PM EST

Yes, I want it available. - (n3jja) - (1) - Dec. 3, 2002, 11:35:19 AM EST

ObAOLMeToo - (Yendor) - Dec. 3, 2002, 12:17:33 PM EST

Ignore, but... - (jbrabeck) - (1) - Dec. 2, 2002, 06:34:21 PM EST

Lookey here: - (folkert) - Dec. 2, 2002, 06:39:40 PM EST

OKAY, OKAY, OKAY....Nuff about the consensus - (folkert) - (23) - Dec. 2, 2002, 09:46:26 PM EST

Sorry, but I still want a twit filter of some sort. - (n3jja) - (22) - Dec. 2, 2002, 10:04:57 PM EST

Agreed - (Yendor) - (21) - Dec. 3, 2002, 03:28:19 AM EST

Same principle as a twit filter. - (n3jja) - (20) - Dec. 3, 2002, 07:36:15 AM EST

So do it yourself. - (Yendor) - (13) - Dec. 3, 2002, 07:56:51 AM EST

No need to add a space - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Dec. 3, 2002, 07:47:58 AM EST

Good call - (Yendor) - Dec. 3, 2002, 07:52:29 AM EST

Workaround for the "Mark All Forums Read" problem: - (CRConrad) - (10) - Dec. 3, 2002, 03:43:21 PM EST

Good thought; beat ya to it. - (Yendor) - (9) - Dec. 4, 2002, 03:55:10 AM EST

As SilverDon said, I have a User Page?!? - (CRConrad) - (8) - Dec. 4, 2002, 04:43:44 AM EST

IIRC... - (bepatient) - (6) - Dec. 4, 2002, 04:53:19 AM EST

Nope... - (Yendor) - (5) - Dec. 4, 2002, 06:26:58 AM EST

user page or preference settings page? - (bepatient) - (3) - Dec. 4, 2002, 06:31:18 AM EST

Neither... - (Yendor) - Dec. 4, 2002, 06:52:04 AM EST

You talking ZIW here, BeeP? We're talking TWikiIWeThey... -NT - (CRConrad) - (1) - Dec. 4, 2002, 06:54:27 AM EST

Finally figured it out -NT - (bepatient) - Dec. 4, 2002, 06:55:40 AM EST

Yeah, I' edited it out, NOW - but it sure would have been... - (CRConrad) - Dec. 4, 2002, 06:52:26 AM EST

On spam harvesting (new thread) - (pwhysall) - Dec. 4, 2002, 07:27:48 AM EST

As long as you don't click "mark all read"... - (ben_tilly) - (5) - Dec. 3, 2002, 07:45:08 AM EST

23 seconds! -NT - (Yendor) - (4) - Dec. 3, 2002, 07:46:28 AM EST

Yabut, better answer :-P - (ben_tilly) - (3) - Dec. 3, 2002, 07:49:30 AM EST

Nein... - (Yendor) - (2) - Dec. 3, 2002, 07:54:46 AM EST

oops - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Dec. 3, 2002, 08:18:30 AM EST

Agreed - (Yendor) - Dec. 3, 2002, 08:23:03 AM EST

Re: Call for consensus on Norm's misuse of the forums - (deSitter) - (2) - Dec. 2, 2002, 11:43:28 PM EST

Twit filters are a generic item... - (Yendor) - (1) - Dec. 3, 2002, 03:34:08 AM EST

Not the first abuse of forums - (ChrisR) - Dec. 3, 2002, 10:33:09 AM EST

Purgatory? - (Another Scott) - (1) - Dec. 3, 2002, 12:27:27 AM EST

Re: Purgatory? - (Yendor) - Dec. 3, 2002, 03:39:54 AM EST

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