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Post #6,472
by admin
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8/23/01 12:38:20 PM
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New Last impression
Basically, the last impression you gave was that you were completely down on any file-based product, and Python particularly because it was good enough to be frustrating that it wasn't as powerful as Smalltalk.
Regards,

-scott anderson
Post #6,473
by Fearless Freep
8/23/01 12:47:51 PM
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New Ahh....forgot that
Basically, the last impression you gave was that you were completely down on any file-based product,

A year with text editors (including Emacs) and CVS has strengthened my feelings in that direction

Python particularly because it was good enough to be frustrating that it wasn't as powerful as Smalltalk.

Python now frustrates me because I see it as being just more of the same, and making the same mistakes many other languages have made. It's still pretty immature, but as it's trying to grow up, it's doing so in the wrong direction. It's not learning from other's past mistakes.

I use it a lot at home (most of my check balancing/money management is done with a set of Python modules and scripts I put together), but it's not something I see as being ready for big application development yet. (Which, coincidentally, is my job :)
Jay O'Connor

"Going places unmapped
to do things unplanned
to people unsuspecting"
Post #6,490
by admin
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8/23/01 2:09:19 PM
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New Have you considered telling people?
The Python developers, in particular?

They might be receptive to your ideas.
Regards,

-scott anderson
Post #6,522
by Fearless Freep
8/23/01 3:56:33 PM
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New Are you kidding?
After the comp.lang.python flame fest over what type the result of "/" shold be and some of the other recent exchanges, the last thing I think I want to do is go suggest that the fundmental thinking that leads to iterators and list comprehnsions is misguided
Jay O'Connor

"Going places unmapped
to do things unplanned
to people unsuspecting"
Post #6,525
by admin
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8/23/01 4:26:08 PM
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New Well...
... then don't complain when the thinking doesn't change.
Regards,

-scott anderson
     Getting the owning window of an HTMLElement? - (admin) - (35) - Aug. 23, 2001, 11:55:41 AM EDT
         *sigh* - (Fearless Freep) - (21) - Aug. 23, 2001, 12:04:28 PM EDT
             You're a lot of help. ;-) - (admin) - (20) - Aug. 23, 2001, 12:16:33 PM EDT
                 thanks! - (Fearless Freep) - (19) - Aug. 23, 2001, 12:24:43 PM EDT
                     Re: thanks! - (admin) - (18) - Aug. 23, 2001, 12:30:09 PM EDT
                         Re: thanks! - (Fearless Freep) - (5) - Aug. 23, 2001, 12:34:58 PM EDT
                             Last impression - (admin) - (4) - Aug. 23, 2001, 12:38:20 PM EDT
                                 Ahh....forgot that - (Fearless Freep) - (3) - Aug. 23, 2001, 12:47:51 PM EDT
                                     Have you considered telling people? - (admin) - (2) - Aug. 23, 2001, 02:09:19 PM EDT
                                         Are you kidding? - (Fearless Freep) - (1) - Aug. 23, 2001, 03:56:33 PM EDT
                                             Well... - (admin) - Aug. 23, 2001, 04:26:08 PM EDT
                         Excuse me? - (ben_tilly) - (11) - Aug. 23, 2001, 04:54:44 PM EDT
                             Well, they're wrong. - (admin) - (10) - Aug. 23, 2001, 05:40:06 PM EDT
                                 Everything has its place - (ben_tilly) - (9) - Aug. 24, 2001, 10:14:21 AM EDT
                                     Your horse is getting taller by the minute. - (tseliot) - (8) - Aug. 24, 2001, 11:45:13 AM EDT
                                         What is a scripting language? - (ben_tilly) - (7) - Aug. 24, 2001, 01:31:34 PM EDT
                                             Good and bad scripting. - (static) - (2) - Aug. 27, 2001, 01:54:23 AM EDT
                                                 Unix scripting... - (ChrisR) - (1) - Aug. 27, 2001, 09:55:57 AM EDT
                                                     That is partly how it was designed - (ben_tilly) - Sept. 3, 2001, 07:25:46 PM EDT
                                             would scripting languages be anything with an interpreter? - (boxley) - (3) - Sept. 2, 2001, 12:29:41 AM EDT
                                                 Yup, IMO. Oh, and you forgot one: Java. -NT - (CRConrad) - Sept. 2, 2001, 08:02:48 PM EDT
                                                 Not necessarily. - (static) - Sept. 3, 2001, 02:19:02 AM EDT
                                                 I wouldn't draw the line there - (ben_tilly) - Sept. 3, 2001, 07:18:31 PM EDT
         Try '.parent' - (drewk) - (12) - Aug. 23, 2001, 12:18:18 PM EDT
             Nope. - (admin) - (11) - Aug. 23, 2001, 12:28:19 PM EDT
                 Either call from the element itself or pass params - (tseliot) - (1) - Aug. 23, 2001, 02:50:37 PM EDT
                     I passed params. - (admin) - Aug. 23, 2001, 03:48:22 PM EDT
                 My stuff's not in front of me... - (ChrisR) - (8) - Aug. 23, 2001, 02:51:58 PM EDT
                     We own all of the frames. - (admin) - (7) - Aug. 23, 2001, 03:49:36 PM EDT
                         hmmm... - (ChrisR) - (5) - Aug. 23, 2001, 06:35:02 PM EDT
                             No dice. - (admin) - (4) - Aug. 24, 2001, 09:02:43 AM EDT
                                 Non standard - (ChrisR) - (3) - Aug. 24, 2001, 11:52:28 AM EDT
                                     Yes, that seems to work. - (admin) - (2) - Aug. 24, 2001, 12:43:26 PM EDT
                                         Natch - (ChrisR) - (1) - Aug. 24, 2001, 03:00:55 PM EDT
                                             Still some problems with DOM in IE 5.5 - (admin) - Aug. 25, 2001, 03:34:12 PM EDT
                         "All your frame are belong to us"? - (Fearless Freep) - Aug. 23, 2001, 06:51:50 PM EDT

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