Post #62,400
11/12/02 9:15:25 AM
11/12/02 9:48:30 AM
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White House Critical Infrastructure Task Force
[link|http://australianit.news.com.au/articles/0,7204,5465840%5E15321%5E%5Enbv%5E15306,00.html|Speaks].
Predictable. MS-Truths "Linux is Insecure because Anyone Can Contribute", "Linux is Insecure because There Is No Central Authority", etc.
Another gem is his comparison of the number of problems in {the set of all OSS projects} to {Windows} - and I disagree with his conclusion - the article quotes no figures - I saw no sources cited for his (dis?) information.
Anyone now doubt that the current administration intervened in an already won judicial matter in order to favor the current monopolist? That the monopoly is favored is documented.
I'll leave speculation as to why to you.
Imric's Tips for Living- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
Edited by imric
Nov. 12, 2002, 09:48:30 AM EST
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Post #62,402
11/12/02 9:20:38 AM
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Is an effing JOKE!
[link|mailto:curley95@attbi.com|greg] - Grand-Master Artist in IT
[link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry/|REMEMBER ED CURRY!!!]
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Hold Thumbprint to Screen for 5 seconds, we'll take the imprint, or
Just continue to type on your keyboard, and we'll just sample your DNA.
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Post #62,411
11/12/02 9:49:36 AM
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haha.
Imric's Tips for Living- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Post #62,409
11/12/02 9:46:47 AM
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So many issues, so little time...
That article isn't worth my time to hack it to pieces.
-YendorMike
What if the hokey pokey really is what it's all about?
- Jimmy Buffett, June 20, 2002, Tinley Park
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Post #62,426
11/12/02 10:32:45 AM
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Research? and Edward Felten's Blog
How did the then-current administrations (Harrison followed by Cleveland redux followed by McKinley/Roosevelt) deal with monopolists under the new Sherman Act? I do know that initially, the big trusts scoffed and the act was misapplied to break unions.
According to Felten's blog, the Friday ruling was posted on the court's website two hours before being announced, and while the market was open. The stock began to rise immediately.
[link|http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/|Felten's Blog]
-drl
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Post #62,484
11/12/02 3:27:04 PM
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He calls that an "[INCORRECT ITEM:]", now:
[link|http://www.freedom-to-tinker.com/archives/000190.html|Update (8:42 PM):] The item below, which I am leaving here only to maintain a complete record, was INCORRECT. It was based on an inaccurate report from a reader, which was discovered when I asked the reader a few more questions. At this point there is no evidence that the Court's email was released early. Christian R. Conrad
Microsoft is a true reflection of Bill Gates' personality - the sleaziest, most unethical, ugliest little rat's ass the world has seen unto this time. -- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=42971|Andrew Grygus]
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Post #62,486
11/12/02 3:46:49 PM
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Typical lawyer
At this point there is no evidence that the Court's email was released early. It's not that the email was released early. It's that the documents which were later emailed out were posted to the court's website hours before the email was sent out. So he is technically correct that the email was not released early. ===
Microsoft offers them the one thing most business people will pay any price for - the ability to say "we had no choice - everyone's doing it that way." -- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=38978|Andrew Grygus]
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Post #62,427
11/12/02 10:43:58 AM
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RE Chris Klaus
This is interesting, from Joe Barr (we all remember him, right?)
[link|http://cert.uni-stuttgart.de/archive/isn/2000/07/msg00009.html|http://cert.uni-stut.../07/msg00009.html]
Ignore the link and look down for Barr's text.
Synopsis: Barr claims that Klaus hired known hackers to create his scanning software, and continues to do so. Thus, he has a 1) a vested interest in maintaining a vulnerable infrastructure 2) in light of his "exalted" position, an interest in hiding his shady past.
-drl
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Post #62,449
11/12/02 11:31:26 AM
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He's been reading way to much of Lewis' work.
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #62,697
11/13/02 4:56:09 PM
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Lewis Carroll? C.S. Lewis?
snicker.
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Post #62,706
11/13/02 5:42:40 PM
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Jerry Lewis?
Tom Sinclair
"Everybody is someone else's weirdo."
- E. Dijkstra
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Post #62,708
11/13/02 5:56:14 PM
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L.A.M.,E.?
DM: "OKay, you round the corner, and entering the alleyway, you see two men standing on eachother's shoulders."
*silence at the table*
Player: "F#$% it, we're fighting Cirque de Soleil! Run for your life!"
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Post #62,719
11/13/02 6:26:22 PM
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Ding Ding Ding Ding...we have a WINNA!
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #62,734
11/13/02 7:24:59 PM
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Damn... And I was *JOKING!*
DM: "OKay, you round the corner, and entering the alleyway, you see two men standing on eachother's shoulders."
*silence at the table*
Player: "F#$% it, we're fighting Cirque de Soleil! Run for your life!"
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Post #62,738
11/13/02 7:35:29 PM
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That article reminded me...
...of the entire "secretary with the source code" crap that he used to pull.
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #62,739
11/13/02 7:50:50 PM
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"Security by obscurity" that is.
Alex
"I have a truly marvelous demonstration of this proposition which this margin is too narrow to contain. -- Pierre de Fermat (1601-1665)
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Post #62,905
11/14/02 4:04:01 PM
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I wish someone would...
...actually test security of a basic workstation install of linux (no server side services) with a basic default install of Windows.
Then...maybe...these idiots would shut up.
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #62,986
11/15/02 12:51:28 AM
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Great Idea: get reporters + 2 boxes and GO ---> [sell ads]
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Post #62,666
11/13/02 12:56:19 PM
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That was predicted.
Only those who were willingly deceiving themselves claimed that Bush wouldn't interfer.
As for the "analysis" of "vulnerabilities".......
Pure marketing bullshit.
The funny part is that no TWO of these "analysts" can even come up with the same number of vulnerabilities.
If they can't START with verifiable NUMBERS......
Real world usage indicates that Open Source systems are LESS vulnerable than Windows. Check your web logs for scans from Code Red. Still.
Now, whether this is because:
#1. The Open Source software has fewer vulnerabilities.
#2. The vulnerabilites are less damaging in Open Source.
#3. The Open Source software's DEFAULT installation is more secure.
#4. The Open Source admins are better at admin'ing.
#5. Something I haven't thought of yet.
#6. A combination of some or all of the above........
The US is in decline. Economically, politically, and so forth.
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Post #62,682
11/13/02 3:11:38 PM
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#5
The crackers that target open source systems tend to be actual crackers as opposed to script kiddies, and tend to not use their resources in obvious ways.
IMO, of course.
DM: "OKay, you round the corner, and entering the alleyway, you see two men standing on eachother's shoulders."
*silence at the table*
Player: "F#$% it, we're fighting Cirque de Soleil! Run for your life!"
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Post #62,681
11/13/02 3:10:46 PM
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Text?
I don't know what it is about that site, but I get what's clearly an article template page, but without the article. Could someone post text or at least juicy nuggets? Thanks. --\r\nKarsten M. Self [link|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com|kmself@ix.netcom.com]\r\n[link|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/|http://kmself.home.netcom.com/]\r\n
What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?\r\n
[link|http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/|TWikIWETHEY] -- an experiment in collective intelligence. Stupidity. Whatever.\r\n
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Keep software free. Oppose the CBDTPA. Kill S.2048 dead.\r\n[link|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html|http://www.eff.org/alerts/20020322_eff_cbdtpa_alert.html]\r\n
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Post #62,686
11/13/02 3:55:54 PM
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All gone now -
I can't read it anymore either. Maybe it was too embarassing.
Imric's Tips for Living- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Post #62,872
11/14/02 2:01:53 PM
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"Security warning on open source"
Karen Dearne
NOVEMBER 12, 2002
LINUX is not a more secure environment than NT or Windows, Internet Security Systems chief technology officer Chris Klaus warns.
"Linux has just as many security holes as Windows in terms of how often we see vulnerabilities appearing,'' Mr Klaus said.
"Recently there have been two major Trojan horses found in open source projects - one in Sunmail, which is the email package for most Unix systems including Linux, and the other was OpenSSH."
Technical people liked open source because they could go to the internet, grab a patch and fix problems quickly, he said.
But they failed to appreciate the huge cost of doing that across hundreds or thousands of machines in a company.
"To go in and change source code and patch might be okay on one machine - but there's a problem when you look at doing that on a much greater scale," Mr Klaus said.
"An enormous amount of vulnerabilities are appearing in Linux. Because it's open source anybody can contribute code to it - there's no central authority doing security for any new code added."
The founder of global risk management and information security solutions company Internet Security Systems (ISS) in 1994, Mr Klaus said the profile of hackers had changed.
"More attacks are being done by professionals," he said.
"It's like the old saying: why rob banks? Because that's where the money is.
"Unfortunately, the internet is now where the money is, meaning you can pretty much hack into every bank or business in the world that's connected to the internet."
Mr Klaus, who is a member of the White House Critical Infrastructure Task Force and the FBI's Infraguard Program, was in Australia last month to talk to corporate clients and government departments.
Christian R. Conrad
Microsoft is a true reflection of Bill Gates' personality - the sleaziest, most unethical, ugliest little rat's ass the world has seen unto this time. -- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=42971|Andrew Grygus]
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Post #62,874
11/14/02 2:07:12 PM
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Was that a typo?
Recently there have been two major Trojan horses found in open source projects - one in Sunmail, which is the email package for most Unix systems including Linux Was that Sendmail in the original and you typoed it? Or did it appear that way in the article? If this guy actually said "Sunmail" he just lost all credibility with anyone who knows a damn thing about what he's talking about. ===
Microsoft offers them the one thing most business people will pay any price for - the ability to say "we had no choice - everyone's doing it that way." -- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=38978|Andrew Grygus]
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Post #62,875
11/14/02 2:20:09 PM
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Cut-and-pasted it, so not MY typo, anyway. But...
DrooK [quoting the article:]Recently there have been two major Trojan horses found in open source projects - one in Sunmail, which is the email package for most Unix systems including Linux Was that Sendmail in the original and you typoed it? Or did it appear that way in the article? It appeared that way in the article (which I saw just fine, BTW), but... If this guy actually said "Sunmail" he just lost all credibility with anyone who knows a damn thing about what he's talking about. ...that could still mean he *said* "Sendmail", only the reporter (Karen Somethingorother) *heard* it as "Sunmail". All things considered, I'd say that seems the likeliest explanation. I must say it slipped by me, though -- I just thought, "What, has Sun donated any mail system to the Open Source community? But that surely can't be the 'default' on Open Source systems... oh well, never mind.", or something like that. Christian R. Conrad
Microsoft is a true reflection of Bill Gates' personality - the sleaziest, most unethical, ugliest little rat's ass the world has seen unto this time. -- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=42971|Andrew Grygus]
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Post #62,895
11/14/02 3:16:17 PM
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What in heck is Mr. Klaus talking about?
But they failed to appreciate the huge cost of doing that across hundreds or thousands of machines in a company.
"To go in and change source code and patch might be okay on one machine - but there's a problem when you look at doing that on a much greater scale," Mr Klaus said. Oh, yeah, and it's soooooo much more simple to patch hundreds or thousands of computers running Windows? Let's see, an average of three reboots per patch...
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