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New Re: Wierd Debian Networking problem
[link|http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue65/tag/12.html|http://www.linuxgaze...sue65/tag/12.html]

Post output of ifconfig -a, please.


Peter
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New ifconfig -a output:

Here ya go!

\r\n
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:80:C8:EC:0C:A4                         \r\n          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1                    \r\n          RX packets:399023 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0               \r\n          TX packets:308045 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0             \r\n          collisions:6 txqueuelen:100                                           \r\n          RX bytes:467950913 (446.2 MiB)  TX bytes:76631874 (73.0 MiB)          \r\n          Interrupt:11 Base address:0x240                                       \r\n                                                                                \r\neth1      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:50:BA:2B:57:1B                         \r\n          inet addr:192.168.0.1  Bcast:192.168.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0        \r\n          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1                    \r\n          RX packets:307634 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0               \r\n          TX packets:398189 errors:135 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:4           \r\n          collisions:3571 txqueuelen:100                                        \r\n          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)                                \r\n          Interrupt:15 Base address:0x4000                                      \r\n                                                                                \r\nlo        Link encap:Local Loopback                                             \r\n          LOOPBACK  MTU:3924  Metric:1                                          \r\n          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0                    \r\n          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0                  \r\n          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0                                             \r\n          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)                                \r\n                                                                                \r\nppp0      Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol                                    \r\n          inet addr:65.94.178.182  P-t-P:64.230.254.252  Mask:255.255.255.255   \r\n          UP POINTOPOINT RUNNING NOARP MULTICAST  MTU:1492  Metric:1            \r\n          RX packets:399013 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0               \r\n          TX packets:308043 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0             \r\n          collisions:0 txqueuelen:10                                            \r\n          RX bytes:530824637 (506.2 MiB)  TX bytes:83650892 (79.7 MiB)          \r\n
\r\n

Do you think the patient is going to live, doctor?;)

--\r\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\r\n* Jack Troughton                            jake at consultron.ca *\r\n* [link|http://consultron.ca|http://consultron.ca]                   [link|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] *\r\n* Laval Qu\ufffdbec Canada                   [link|news://news.consultron.ca|news://news.consultron.ca] *\r\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
New eth1 is having collision issues and eth0 is not addressed
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New Re: eth1 is having collision issues and eth0 is not addresse

Yes. The hub in this office was the cheapest piece of shit they could buy... these guys are pals and don't have much money. Eth0 is not addressed because it's being used as a conduit for a DSL connection using PPPoE. That's the ppp0 interface you see...

--\r\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\r\n* Jack Troughton                            jake at consultron.ca *\r\n* [link|http://consultron.ca|http://consultron.ca]                   [link|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] *\r\n* Laval Qu\ufffdbec Canada                   [link|news://news.consultron.ca|news://news.consultron.ca] *\r\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
New Re: eth1 is having collision issues and eth0 is not addresse
Again, this sounds like an interaction of your driver and the hub in regards to linking - probably related to 10/100 capability. Define everything to run at either 10 or 100 but not "auto".
-drl
New also swap the cable and see if it makes a difference
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New This is using the mii-diag program, I take it?
--\r\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\r\n* Jack Troughton                            jake at consultron.ca *\r\n* [link|http://consultron.ca|http://consultron.ca]                   [link|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] *\r\n* Laval Qu\ufffdbec Canada                   [link|news://news.consultron.ca|news://news.consultron.ca] *\r\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
New Re: This is using the mii-diag program, I take it?
Uh, no - this is using the "I've seen every fucked up thing imaginable" intuition generation process.
-drl
New :)
Yeah... I was just wondering if you happened to know if that was the right tool. I'm going to have to dl and compile it if I want to use it, so I want to make sure that it's the one I need.
--\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton                            jake at consultron.ca *\n* [link|http://consultron.ca|http://consultron.ca]                   [link|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] *\n* Laval Qu\ufffdbec Canada                   [link|news://news.consultron.ca|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
New Re: ifconfig -a output:
jake123 wrote:

lo        Link encap:Local Loopback                                             \n          LOOPBACK  MTU:3924  Metric:1                                          \n          RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0                    \n          TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0                  \n          collisions:0 txqueuelen:0                                             \n          RX bytes:0 (0.0 b)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 b)


You'll notice the complete and utter lack of any IP address in there. That's your problem. You know, a line like "inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0".

So, time to fix yr. loopback network. And make sure /etc/hosts has "127.0.0.1 localhost" in it.

Rick Moen
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New Yikes
I can't believe that one slipped by me.

I've fixed it in /etc/network/interfaces.

Thanks!
--\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton                            jake at consultron.ca *\n* [link|http://consultron.ca|http://consultron.ca]                   [link|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] *\n* Laval Qu\ufffdbec Canada                   [link|news://news.consultron.ca|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
New Re: Yikes
You're welcome.

In case I was too cryptic, that was the cause of your "neighbour table overflow" errors. It wasn't a driver bug, a hardware error, hub or switch negotiation, RIP malfunctions, frame collisions, or cabling problems. Yes, it was an overflowing ARP table, but that was in turn just a result of the underlying cause: /dev/lo being invalid.

Rick Moen
rick@linuxmafia.com


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New Well, time will tell
as in all things:). It's set up properly now... we'll see if it happens again or not.
--\r\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\r\n* Jack Troughton                            jake at consultron.ca *\r\n* [link|http://consultron.ca|http://consultron.ca]                   [link|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] *\r\n* Laval Qu\ufffdbec Canada                   [link|news://news.consultron.ca|news://news.consultron.ca] *\r\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
New Re: Yikes
How did it happen? This must be a Debian thing. I've never seen a single IP machine with a misconfigured loopback address.

Good eyes to Rick for spotting that.
-drl
New Debian thing?
Doubt that.

I mean, I REALLY doubt that.

Debian has the best QA in the Linux business.

More like a slip of the fingers whilst editing the file.





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New Slip of fingers?
lo is automatically configured when you install IP networking. Why did it get the wrong address? I can't see any scenario other than deliberately setting lo=0.0.0.0, which I'm sure Jack would not have done.
-drl
New Re: Slip of fingers?
All it would take, in emacs, would be, on the wrong line:

CTRL-SPACE
down-arrow
CTRL-W

and poof! It's gone.

I can execute the above keystrokes in well under a second. It's easily done.


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New Re: Yikes
deSitter wrote:

Good eyes to Rick for spotting that.

Thanks. Truth to tell, it had to percolate through my brain for a while. That is, the original problem description with the "neighbour table overflow" message rang a distant bell when Jack posted it, but I couldn't remember what it was supposed to remind me of. Much later, he posted that /sbin/ifconfig output, and my unconscious tapped me on the shoulder, saying "Hello. That's the loopback misconfiguration problem I was trying to remind you about, earlier."

I've encountered the problem before, but not recently.

Rick Moen
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New lo (and bug, incidentally)

I saw the problem and recognized, it, but kept losing my posts here from a w3m session. I'll try to track this down further.

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I'm not sure what the cause of the unconfigured lo was, but I've seen this show up from time to time, I don't believe the ifupdown package configures /etc/network/interfaces in all instances. If any other Debian types know where this configuration is initated from normally (as opposed to manually) please share.

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New Re: lo (and bug, incidentally)
Yes... there's no way I would have disabled loopback... and being a dedicated ViM user, I know that I didn't kill that in interfaces. The thing I was going yikes about was that I never noticed that loopback didn't have an address defined in the output of ifconfig... I can't believe that I looked over that output so many times without noticing that. Forest -> Trees, I guess.
--\r\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\r\n* Jack Troughton                            jake at consultron.ca *\r\n* [link|http://consultron.ca|http://consultron.ca]                   [link|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] *\r\n* Laval Qu\ufffdbec Canada                   [link|news://news.consultron.ca|news://news.consultron.ca] *\r\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
New Re: lo (and bug, incidentally)
Jack wrote:

The thing I was going yikes about was that I never noticed that loopback didn't have an address defined in the output of ifconfig... I can't believe that I looked over that output so many times without noticing that. Forest -> Trees, I guess.

It's easy to miss. I'm pretty much conditioned to look for it. ;-)

Rick Moen
rick@linuxmafia.com


If you lived here, you'd be $HOME already.
     Wierd Debian Networking problem - (jake123) - (32)
         Hmm - (deSitter) - (2)
             Brainstorm - (deSitter)
             Card... - (jake123)
         neighbor table overflow sounds like RIP problem -NT - (boxley) - (4)
             Newb to unix... what's RIP? - (jake123) - (3)
                 RIP is a routing protocol - (boxley)
                 Routing Interchange Protocol - (deSitter) - (1)
                     Re: Routing Interchange Protocol - (pwhysall)
         Re: Wierd Debian Networking problem - (pwhysall) - (20)
             ifconfig -a output: - (jake123) - (19)
                 eth1 is having collision issues and eth0 is not addressed -NT - (boxley) - (6)
                     Re: eth1 is having collision issues and eth0 is not addresse - (jake123) - (5)
                         Re: eth1 is having collision issues and eth0 is not addresse - (deSitter) - (4)
                             also swap the cable and see if it makes a difference -NT - (boxley)
                             This is using the mii-diag program, I take it? -NT - (jake123) - (2)
                                 Re: This is using the mii-diag program, I take it? - (deSitter) - (1)
                                     :) - (jake123)
                 Re: ifconfig -a output: - (rickmoen) - (11)
                     Yikes - (jake123) - (10)
                         Re: Yikes - (rickmoen) - (1)
                             Well, time will tell - (jake123)
                         Re: Yikes - (deSitter) - (7)
                             Debian thing? - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                 Slip of fingers? - (deSitter) - (1)
                                     Re: Slip of fingers? - (pwhysall)
                             Re: Yikes - (rickmoen) - (3)
                                 lo (and bug, incidentally) - (kmself) - (2)
                                     Re: lo (and bug, incidentally) - (jake123) - (1)
                                         Re: lo (and bug, incidentally) - (rickmoen)
         Common ploy by.... - (folkert) - (2)
             Re: Common ploy by.... - (rickmoen) - (1)
                 Ok, what do you think of this firewall script? - (jake123)

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