I've heard that as well.

Post #59,864 by inthane-chan 10/28/02 10:58:40 AM Reply	I've heard that as well. They claimed it was the only way to secure them. End of world rescheduled for day after tomorrow. Something should probably be done. Please advise.
Post #60,011 by dmarker 10/29/02 9:45:04 AM 10/29/02 9:13:25 PM Reply	Re: Stories we got was - kill all the women with bombs, then kill the male terrorists. The women had the body bombs. The Ruskies had spy cameras and listening gear in place throughout the ceiling & walls. Crept in through the drains & aircon ducts. As awful as the death toll is I am f***ing certain it would have been a lot higher & the event a lot worse had they not acted as they did. I am sure a whole lot of bleeding hearts who never had to face the consequences of a total failure due to dragged out & gory murders, will scream blue murder that anyone died. Other reports around now talk of many countries wanting to study the event and know of the gas so they can use the same tactics but hopefully refine the dosage & perhaps act sooner to prevent weakened hostages succumbing. I for one truly believe Putin did the right thing only it might have been done sooner. It is easy to spit crits at the SF who went in but those bastards had to look death right i the eye & just because it was their job (alright, don't start on what Setznaz & regulars do to civvies in Chechenya - that is unfair <grin>) Doug M Edited by dmarker Oct. 29, 2002, 09:13:25 PM EST Expand All History
Post #60,122 by Ashton 10/29/02 10:03:47 PM Reply	On availability of medical help Sheer guesswork from what I have heard: Presumably the inside people had at least someone outside, perhaps with cel fone or other - for advance warning of something as obvious as.. 50 ambulances. Thus their arrival would certainly risk.. element of surprise. Now why they weren't positioned a mile or so away and dispersed - may be a valid criticism. (No I have no explanation of the way the commandos were assembled invisibly, but must presume this is Tactics 101A and they were not singing marching songs) Otherwise, from what I've heard recently of the putative composition of the gas: one substance used as an antidote to certain alkaloids.. another component a pharm-chem substance alleged 1000x more potent than morphine - seems likely they would have had little experience of using this on a significant number of civilians; little data to suggest exact dosages. Obv. they neded to incapacitate the human bombs or risk total destruction of the building + occupants + their own troops. So I concur: Putin did the best he could manage - pending any weird shit that next surfaces. Ashton

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