Chris, I lived about 50 miles South of where you are...

Post #59,701 by a6l6e6x 10/26/02 11:37:18 PM Reply	Chris, I lived about 50 miles South of where you are... in Red Hook, NY, 1965-1979. The all time low during that time was -26 degrees F (-32 degrees C). Most winters will have some days below -20 degrees F. However, these days are generally on calm days with clear nights -- after "radiational cooling". Gusty days with near 0 degrees feel much worse -- wind chill factor, of course. Once had a period of 2 weeks all below 0 degrees. One February while camping with my son and other Boy Scouts and sleeping in a "lean-to" (i.e. essentially outside), it got down to 7 degrees F. That was not a problem. The mistake I made was leaving my boots outside the sleeping bag. They had been damp and froze solid and might as well have been made of steel. That's when you discover boots need to be pliable to get them on. A few minutes of baking in front of a campfire did the trick on the boots. The least fun thing was going potty in an outhouse. :) Just keep adding layers of clothing until comfortable. Alex "I have a truly marvelous demonstration of this proposition which this margin is too narrow to contain. -- Pierre de Fermat (1601-1665)
Post #59,712 by boxley 10/27/02 12:23:02 AM Reply	start eating fatback and lose the chickory in the coffee! :) will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] "Therefore, by objective standards, the leading managers of the U.S. economy...are collectively, clinically insane." Lyndon LaRouche
Post #59,746 by jake123 10/27/02 10:20:47 AM Reply	Layers is the key I have spent most of my life significantly north of where you are. What Alex said about layers is very accurate. Deep winter you want something like this: t-shirt, long flannel shirt, sweater, winter coat w/ scarf, toque, and mitts/gloves. Layers work well for the legs, too... I can usually handle 30 below weather with just jeans and underwear, but I grew up in it;). Get some longjohns. Finally, good footwear and handwear is crucial... good boots are very important, and note that mitts are significantly warmer than gloves. Most of your heat escapes through your head, so make sure you get a good hat too. The other note about winter cold is best expressed with a quote for Lawrence of Arabia... "the trick is not minding". You'll find that it's entirely within the realm of reason for your legs to drop down to fifteen degrees and still function and even be comfortable... it feels strange, but not necessarily painful, and you can sustain that for many hours without real discomfort once you get used to it. Core temperature has to remain high, of course... BTW, Chris... did you ever receive the CDs I sent you? I have no way of knowing if they got to you or not... Regards, Jack --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Laval Qu\ufffdbec Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #59,749 by ben_tilly 10/27/02 10:34:03 AM Reply	The part I couldn't get used to... Having to ground myself before touching things. I mean, I have heard of electrifying kisses, but the reality is more than a little painful. :-( Cheers, Ben "Career politicians are inherently untrustworthy; if it spends its life buzzing around the outhouse, it\ufffds probably a fly." - [link\|http://www.nationalinterest.org/issues/58/Mead.html\|Walter Mead]
Post #59,750 by jake123 10/27/02 10:37:09 AM Reply	Bwahahahahaaaa Yeah, that works:) That's about humidity... and whether you use artificial or natural fibers in your carpeting. Where I have lived is generally humid in the wintertime... which means less static electricity, but also means that the cold feels colder. Winter fogs are very cool (that's when it's foggy at night despite the fact that it's fifteen below... that would be about 0 for you Yanks) but they can be quite uncomfortable if you need to spend a lot of time in them. It's in weather like that when you discover that wool is far far superiour to most if not all of the artificial insulators... --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Laval Qu\ufffdbec Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #59,753 by deSitter 10/27/02 10:46:41 AM Reply	Permanent Change After being in Denver for a few years I adapted to cold and even now can be out in 40 degrees with no coat at all. The drawback is that the limbs seem to be permanently cold, even in summer with the A/C running. -drl

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