Re: Girls Kickin-ass in school

Post #58,007 by deSitter 10/21/02 9:56:29 AM Reply	Re: Girls Kickin-ass in school General trend of indoctrination into the "unrestricted feminine" - boys are trying to be girls, and failing. Vanity, fashion, sensuality, emotionalism, etc. are now all OK for boys. While wasting time on such, they fail to learn the basic masculine virtues, i.e. reason, self-control, spirituality. Courts are also stacked against men, so the outlook for boys is poor. They see that they will not be allowed to determine their own destiny, create a stable family, have a stable income, etc. The fact that phrases like "kicking ass" have seeped into the general lexicon is ample evidence of the change. This is one of many false masculine ideals that have replaced the real ones of yore. The "unrestricted feminine" is a very corrosive force. -drl
Post #58,194 by Ashton 10/22/02 2:28:49 AM Reply	Re: Girls Kickin-ass in school Methinks that such phrases as 'unrestricted feminine' and also the presumption that there is some agreed-on perfect idea of 'the masculine' - are apt to suffer the same fate as 'Freedom' and 'Liberty': not meaning the same thing to any two people. But when you throw in While wasting time on such, they fail to learn the basic masculine virtues, i.e. reason, self-control, spirituality. then you open a whole can of worms, especially in the concept that these three virtues are unrelated to females - or ought not to be. I believe you are generalizing from personal experience of the unhappy kind, to a model which I don't recognize. I don't see any of these as unalloyed virtues or as properly assigned to either gender, though reason comes close (but can still create pedants). I agree about the fallacy of 'kicking ass' however.. hey! we're living in a dumbed-down facsimile of a real culture. Just listen to the 'music' on Cee Dees! Remember too - a mob of men flayed Hypatia; was she too smart for a female to be? Never seen a mob of females ready to burn a library, though I'm sure that some fraus helped in Germany '30s: gotta stand by your man and all. Ashton
Post #58,205 by Andrew Grygus 10/22/02 5:20:20 AM Reply	I remember 40 some odd years ago . . . . when I was in high school. The guys who learned to dress, groom and act in strict accordance with the latest fashions were the ones that got dates. Nothing new here except that pervasive advertising media has intesified it for both male and female. Don't recall reason, self control or spirituality being particularly in vogue back then either, though sports was prominent and cheer leaders were widely suspected of humping the whole football team on a regular basis. Also recall in grade school girls beating up on boys during those few years when they are comparitively bigger. Of course, there's the famous lament on how fashion following youth no longer has respect for elders, social norms, religion, etc. etc. - the whole nine yards. Sounds entirely contemporary, except it was written in Egypt during the time of the pyramid builders. Nothing new here - youth has been going to hell since pre historic times. "Unrestricted feminine"? Courts stacked against men? Can't determine their own destiny? Can't create a stable family or have a stable income? Sounds like a contentious divorce found you'd left too many easy openings. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]

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