Post #5,779
8/18/01 7:43:57 PM
8/18/01 7:50:54 PM
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So turn it off.
You can [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/user/edit|turn off CSS] in zIWT for exactly that reason.
Regards,
-scott anderson
Edited by admin
Aug. 18, 2001, 07:50:54 PM EDT
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Post #5,787
8/18/01 8:22:34 PM
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Doesn't answer broader question
zIWETHEY is one of the offenders. It's not the only one. I'd like to cut the goddamned crap off at the source. Tweaking each site independently gets old fast. How does one use userContent.css to set sane font/size preferences. I'd like: - Body face and size locked. Note that deselecting CSS still leaves the odd font sizing hint in place. Spacing between lines is also odd.
- Link colors locked.
- Step sizes locked to ranges (about 3-5% is sufficient for hinting).
- header level (H1, H2, H3,...H7) face and size locked.
- dialog font face and size locked (incidentally, deselecting CSS doesn't effect the dialog here, unless I have to start over from scratch or reinitialize my session somehow).
I continue to maintain that the best thing to do with fonts and display preferences is to leave them the fuck alone. Users have controls within their browsers to modify size preferences to suit their reading needs/preferences. If you tweak settings, you get two classes of users: - The ones who've specified their browser preferences to their liking and hate yours.
- The ones who don't know, or care, how to specify font and display preferences, don't realize what you've done, and are generally bewildered by different display settings across multiple sites.
The short version: you lose, you lose. Best I can hope for is to wrest control back from the webpage design bozos. This is a certain satisfactory aspect of the dillo browser: font face and size, and background color are specified by the browser. In fact, they're compiled in ;-) Rendering uniformly readable sites is actually nice for a change.
-- Karsten M. Self [link|mailto:kmself@ix.netcom.com|kmself@ix.netcom.com]
What part of "gestalt" don't you understand?
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Post #5,796
8/18/01 10:42:35 PM
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Well why don't we just go back...
...to black text on a grey backround?
What's the point of having a hypertext markup language if you don't like people marking up the text?
Semi-nudge nudge
You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! Laurie Anderson
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #5,808
8/19/01 2:09:51 AM
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wtfsck is wrong with that?
we are speaking visually, the text is the message and english or american has all the T":'W!,. punctuation to deal with mood settings (or so some of whine about others not using same:)) pretty is cool until you realize that this is a forum not a bloody movie download site. Pretty is cool but a complete waste of time unless it is integral to the message. Shouting does not require special html codes UPPER CASE DOES JUST FINE! While I enjoy CRC because he is CRC the trouble to go thru for a 2 fingered tytpest is more trubble thn iits wooorths. wehatever. I am not trying to sell you anything just spitting out what comes to mind, ask questions and share life. We arnt being graded on this are we? thanx, bill
Our bureaucracy and our laws have turned the world into a clean, safe work camp. We are raising a nation of slaves. Chuck Palahniuk
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Post #5,902
8/19/01 9:38:14 PM
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I wonder if it is as simple as that.
zIWETHEY has almost no <font> tags and almost no class= or style= parameters. If you turn CSS off here, rendering should be entirely at the mercy of your browser.
I embarked on a mini-project some weeks ago to bring some sort of order to the markup here on IWETHEY wrt CSS yes no or otherwise, but the truth of the matter is that what Scott has cobbled together is actually pretty versatile and very tame, really. So I abandoned it for the moment.
Wade.
"All around me are nothing but fakes Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
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Post #6,112
8/21/01 3:08:30 PM
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zIWT -- is that pronounced, "zoot"?
That's her, officer! That's the woman that programmed me for evil!
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Post #6,115
8/21/01 3:15:16 PM
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Just "zIWT"
And we've been off lighting the Grail-shaped beacon, too...
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #6,125
8/21/01 3:42:40 PM
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As the prescient LRPD says...
Just a little peril?
-YendorMike
"The problems of the world cannot possibly be solved by the skeptics or the cynics whose horizons are limited by the obvious realities. We need people who dream of things that never were." - John F. Kennedy
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Post #6,166
8/21/01 7:04:08 PM
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No, it's too perilous.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #6,261
8/22/01 9:30:55 AM
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But what if....
I cut down trees, I eat my lunch, I go to the lavatory! ?
-YendorMike
"The problems of the world cannot possibly be solved by the skeptics or the cynics whose horizons are limited by the obvious realities. We need people who dream of things that never were." - John F. Kennedy
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Post #6,262
8/22/01 9:35:23 AM
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Re: zIWT -- is that pronounced, "zoot"?
No, it's pronounced thus:
zed-eye-dubble-you-tee.
-- Peter Shill For Hire
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