Re: A good call

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Post #56,471

10/13/02 10:10:22 AM

Re: A good call

But, I am in no way disgusted with 'us' being you or box or other Americans- this
seems to be a misguided interpretation of my comments by Box? (& Marlowe, assuming it is human). I asked each of them to quote the offending remark but neither can because there wasn't one.

My remark, if read carefully can be seen clearly as an anti-terror statement but I do also say that I would not be surprised if the attack was a special ops exercise designed to bring Australia on side.

I know that few Americans I have met would do such a thing but as you quite rightly point out, I am wondering about just who did carry it out. Right at this time, the politics are such that Muslim extremeists who are not Balinese hindus, don't really have anything whatso ever to gain from such an attack. Discussing the attack from hard cold rationality is all I am seeking. Marlowe's pathetic diatribe is in no way purposeful other than to fill in white space on paper with black characters. I will debate any statement I make & will stand or fall by the rationality of my case.

Cheers

Doug

Post #56,479

10/13/02 10:45:26 AM

Insufficient data at this time?

I understand your point that there is no apparant muslim political motive.
I am also quite aware that the US is not above using provocative agents.
It is my experience that surgeons are surgeons because they like to cut. Snipers like to shoot. There are those who just *like* blasts and mayhem. If they can get god, the homeland, motherhood, or some oil company to subsidize it, so much the better.
Our handling of 9/11 *should* have been based on investigation, and lawful handling of the perpetrators. As a nation, we have an attention span of a mayfly. So we fucked it up.
I would hope that this tradedy is handled better. As in finding out who did it and why and *then* dealing with them in a manner that would stop such persons from doing it again and seriously discourage further actions.
At the moment I don't see sufficient data to identify anybody except the victims.

Regards,
Hugh

Indonesia: - bomb in Bali kills many Australians ... - (dmarker2) - (36) - Oct. 13, 2002, 06:14:06 AM EDT

Re: Indonesia: - bomb in Bali kills over 100 (many Aussies) - (deSitter) - Oct. 13, 2002, 01:12:18 AM EDT

check the french first - (boxley) - (6) - Oct. 13, 2002, 02:26:26 AM EDT

Re: Just as 9/11 was to you, this is a major event to us ... - (dmarker2) - (5) - Oct. 13, 2002, 05:20:15 AM EDT

Re: Just as 9/11 was to you, this is a major event to us ... - (deSitter) - (2) - Oct. 13, 2002, 09:45:23 AM EDT

Re: A good call - (dmarker2) - (1) - Oct. 13, 2002, 10:10:22 AM EDT

Insufficient data at this time? - (hnick) - Oct. 13, 2002, 10:45:26 AM EDT

You're one to talk about glib and vague. - (marlowe) - (1) - Oct. 13, 2002, 04:48:13 PM EDT

Re: Another Marlowe 'hit-and-run' with no substance - (dmarker2) - Oct. 13, 2002, 06:50:31 PM EDT

Yeah, everything's the Americans' fault somehow or other. - (marlowe) - (2) - Oct. 13, 2002, 08:54:54 AM EDT

Re: Cut the blanket crap - deal with specifics - (dmarker2) - Oct. 13, 2002, 10:33:52 AM EDT

Start bot; script to JingoBells boilerplate; send troll -NT - (Ashton) - Oct. 13, 2002, 04:06:15 PM EDT

This event to you is the same as the world trade center for - (boxley) - (24) - Oct. 13, 2002, 10:52:55 AM EDT

Re: I am upset aout the attack for many reasosn - (dmarker2) - (23) - Oct. 13, 2002, 11:26:48 AM EDT

Ditto. - (Brandioch) - (22) - Oct. 13, 2002, 02:45:05 PM EDT

Re: Ditto. - (deSitter) - (2) - Oct. 13, 2002, 02:59:02 PM EDT

Or.... - (Brandioch) - Oct. 13, 2002, 03:57:01 PM EDT

This totally inappropriate remark - (Ashton) - Oct. 13, 2002, 04:02:18 PM EDT

Disagree, - (a6l6e6x) - (18) - Oct. 13, 2002, 04:26:34 PM EDT

Yes it is, but they don't do "targets of opportunity". - (Brandioch) - (17) - Oct. 13, 2002, 09:44:37 PM EDT

Wasnt the German nightclub an one of theirs? -NT - (boxley) - (6) - Oct. 13, 2002, 09:48:36 PM EDT

Re: Not that I ever read anywhere ... - (dmarker2) - (4) - Oct. 14, 2002, 06:14:11 AM EDT

On covert ops in general. - (inthane-chan) - (3) - Oct. 14, 2002, 11:53:07 AM EDT

Risk / benefit - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - Oct. 14, 2002, 12:23:46 PM EDT

Risk / benefit analysis assumes intelligent direction - (mhuber) - (1) - Oct. 14, 2002, 07:07:34 PM EDT

Simple, intelligent aim: sow chaos. It worked. Works. -NT - (Ashton) - Oct. 14, 2002, 08:27:36 PM EDT

Clarification? - (Brandioch) - Oct. 14, 2002, 06:39:18 PM EDT

Look at it from another angle. - (Andrew Grygus) - Oct. 13, 2002, 10:17:02 PM EDT

Au contraire. - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - Oct. 13, 2002, 10:45:44 PM EDT

Re: No, those attacks were aimed at their own govt - (dmarker2) - Oct. 14, 2002, 04:05:44 AM EDT

One more tidbit. - (a6l6e6x) - (6) - Oct. 13, 2002, 11:21:52 PM EDT

Re: Guess what - Osama was right - Oz was ... - (dmarker2) - (5) - Oct. 14, 2002, 06:45:46 AM EDT

Re: Guess what - Osama was right - Oz was ... - (TTC) - (4) - Oct. 14, 2002, 09:48:46 PM EDT

How amusing - (ben_tilly) - (3) - Oct. 14, 2002, 10:06:05 PM EDT

Re: How amusing - (TTC) - (2) - Oct. 14, 2002, 10:44:09 PM EDT

I guessed some of that - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 14, 2002, 11:17:31 PM EDT

Hardly - (Ashton) - Oct. 14, 2002, 11:25:17 PM EDT

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