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New Nah!
I am just waiting for Jesus to come back and fix things. Get rid of the rotten ones, make a new Heaven and Earth, make everything all right.

It is possible to treat mental illneses without the use of drugs. It is, in some cases, a brain chestry issue. Eating the right foods may help balance out the brain chemestry that may be causing the mental illness. Or avoid eating certain foods may fix the chemical imbalance.

I am still adjusting a bit to my medication change, I am getting better but still not 100% yet. Antidepressants can really mess with your mind at times.

[link|http://games.speakeasy.net/data/files/khan.jpg|"Khan!!!" -Kirk]
New Do you even *see* the hypocrisy?
"I am just waiting for Jesus to come back and fix things. Get rid of the rotten ones"

I thought the main tenet of christianity was that anyone could be saved. All of us are *God's* children. Must have misunderstood.
"A civilian gang of thieving lobbyists for the military industrial complex is running the White House. If to be against them is considered unpatriotic -- Hell, then call me a traitor."
-- Hunter S. Thompson
New Somewhat
but if the rotten ones are converted to good ones, then they are gotten rid of because they are born again. The old rotten person would then no longer exist.

Many people who are not Christians are still the good ones, IMHO.

Yes anyone can be saved, but they must first want to be saved. You cannot force it on anyone.

If Jesus came back, healed the sick and dying, did more miricles, brought about world peace, ened hunger and poverty, etc. Wouldn't it fix things?

[link|http://games.speakeasy.net/data/files/khan.jpg|"Khan!!!" -Kirk]
New No
Eating of the "fruit of the knowledge of good and evil" has separated mankind forever from the rest of creation. "Behold, he is as we".

Mankind is on the bottom rung of godhood and every person must take responsibility for his/her own development. The promise of pushing responsibility off onto some "savior" is wishful thinking, and futile back sliding at best. The burden of individual responsibility should be accepted willingly, because it's inescapable anyway.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
New Jesus's schedule...
... is much less predictable than a Worker's Revolution...

I haven't got all day, you know...
jb4
"About the use of language: it is impossible to sharpen a pencil with a blunt axe. It is equally vain to try to do it with ten blunt axes instead. "
-- Edsger W.Dijkstra (1930 - 2002)
(I wish more managers knew that...)
New Time to move this to "religion".
New Or Politics?
Since the original discussion started off with drl swearing off Capitalism in favor of Socialism?
New There's a difference?
End of world rescheduled for day after tomorrow. Something should probably be done. Please advise.
New Dup
Since the original discussion started off with drl swearing off Capitalism in favor of Socialism?
Expand Edited by gdaustin Oct. 10, 2002, 06:39:20 PM EDT
New Exactly!
Many kids with ADHD are very effectively treated with behaviorial therapy, where parents are very diligent in keeping children on task, and children are taught coping techniques ( daytimers, to do lists, calendars, alarm watches ) to remind them of key tasks that must be completed.

Dr. Dobson has even said that a huge majority of ADHD cases are treatable by diligent parents without drugs, provided parents are willing to commit the time. The problem is that many parents today simply aren't or can't be committed enough (in a two job family), to stay with the person and help them make the change.

Many permanently recovered drug and alcohol addicts will testify to you that they tried every possible means to beat addition before they turned their life over to Jesus.

Then, with the help of committed counselors and accountability partners, these addicts were able to finally break their cycle of addiction. But, breaking this cycle of addiction meant completely changing their life. Where once they would hide and use in private, they had to be careful to always stay in public, connected and accountable to some other human being, who held them up to the standard of not using anymore.

The counselors have to be completely committed to being brutally honest, to be sometimes being even somewhat manipulative, to giving up lots of personal time, all to help this addict learn to live another way.

The reason I bring up the Christian connection is that I've found through experiences of former addict friends, that the chances of someone completely changing their life ( the Bible says being "born again", a new person ) without Jesus are very very slim. Now, I'll admit that I've never lived as a Muslim, Buddhist, or Jew, so I cannot speak if there are cases where this has happened definitively. One could argue that the psychological power of a "faith-based" change is strong enough to cure an addict, but I really believe that it takes something that goes much deeper.

And that is a spiritual change deep down in your soul. These addicts have to decide to live for Jesus, rather than living for themselves.
     Drug Dealers - (deSitter) - (59)
         Nah! - (orion) - (9)
             Do you even *see* the hypocrisy? - (Silverlock) - (3)
                 Somewhat - (orion) - (1)
                     No - (Andrew Grygus)
                 Jesus's schedule... - (jb4)
             Time to move this to "religion". -NT - (Brandioch) - (3)
                 Or Politics? - (gdaustin) - (1)
                     There's a difference? -NT - (inthane-chan)
                 Dup - (gdaustin)
             Exactly! - (gdaustin)
         Socialism won't work - (orion) - (11)
             It's not an economic/political system problem... - (gdaustin) - (8)
                 The question is, (and it's a big one!) who's values? -NT - (inthane-chan) - (5)
                     Answer - (gdaustin) - (4)
                         Re: Answer - (deSitter) - (3)
                             There's a difference... - (gdaustin) - (2)
                                 It's Natural! - (deSitter) - (1)
                                     Diff between looking and acting on impulses - (gdaustin)
                 It is a flawed universe far from perfect - (orion) - (1)
                     I am praying for you. - (Arkadiy)
             RE: socialism choking the life out of Cuba. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                 Why yes, but for their own good, like Iraqi population next- -NT - (Ashton)
         I think you're confused - DRL - (gdaustin) - (4)
             Tell it to CRC - (deSitter) - (3)
                 Perhaps You Should Join Him? - (gdaustin) - (2)
                     Love It or Leave It, eh? - (Ashton)
                     Re: Perhaps You Should Join Him? - (deSitter)
         Socialism would not be kind to you. - (mmoffitt) - (31)
             Re: Socialism would not be kind to you. - (deSitter)
             Re: Socialism would not be kind to you. - 2 - (deSitter)
             Re: Socialism would not be kind to you. - 2 - (deSitter)
             Re: Socialism would not be kind to you. - 2 - (deSitter)
             Re: Socialism would not be kind to you. - 2 - (deSitter)
             Re: Socialism would not be kind to you. - 2 - (deSitter)
             Re: Socialism would not be kind to you. - 2 - (deSitter)
             Re: Socialism would not be kind to you. - 2 - (deSitter)
             Re: Socialism would not be kind to you. - 2 - (deSitter)
             Re: Socialism would not be kind to you. - 2 - (deSitter) - (21)
                 What we have a case of here... - (admin) - (8)
                     Re: What we have a case of here... - (deSitter) - (7)
                         Bahahaa... - (admin) - (6)
                             What is That? -NT - (deSitter) - (4)
                                 Re: What is That? - (admin) - (3)
                                     Is that a reference to the poetess... - (CRConrad) - (2)
                                         Ooohh.... NICE Quick-Save button! :-) -NT - (CRConrad)
                                         It's from Dune -NT - (admin)
                             You might as well make'm blink too -NT - (deSitter)
                 Do you favor more or less gov't? - (ChrisR) - (5)
                     More posts, at least. -NT - (admin)
                     Not At All - (deSitter) - (3)
                         But then, neither France nor Scandinavia is "socialist"... - (CRConrad) - (2)
                             Re: But then, neither France nor Scandinavia is "socialist" - (deSitter)
                             Good post. - (mmoffitt)
                 What is this? - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                     Re: What is this? What It Was - (deSitter)
                     How about our favorite drug? - (drewk) - (3)
                         Here's a tip. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                             So it's testable, is it still active? - (drewk)
                             Re: Here's a tip. - (deSitter)

I can negate every one of your facts with unverified information I've gotten from the internet machine.
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