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New Doverai ni proverai..
Ronnie was so proud of himself! - his first uttered Russian words.. (old Russian saying)

Trust.. but verify.

And fact is / seems to be - there remains enough of that sense between the real pros in US and Russia (indicated by their telling *us* exactly what was broken in the #&*^%&#$ Microsloth db, which was hiding weapons numbers) to use the word 'trust' correctly. Today, anyway. Tomorrow ?? Etc.

No, I can't give you a nice slogan that *proves* we can make any such arrangement utterly idiot-proof. I could.. list a few dozen reasons though, why..

TWO MINUTES = an unimaginably STUPID amount of time before launching the beginnings of what the Rand Corporation dubbed, in the early '60s

Spasm War...

ie after a perhaps two or 3 missiles are enroute or land - we revert to primitive logic, no matter if it can be seen that this logic shall KILL ALL, And *THAT* is precisely the logic ever behind M.A.D. -- which we have survived because so far, not One Insane sub Captain + a few willing accomplices - has er surfaced on either side.

Wanna keep playing that game, as Russia's ability to control its weapons deteriorates every day?



I Don't.

China ditto - dunno the Chinese for doverai, proverai

(Obviously 'reduce' was the exact wrong! word, above. D'Oh.)
New What is ideal?
Trust but verify.

Missile defense system available to both Russia and US.

We deploy, they deploy.

Global arms tensions reduce.

Since we can bash their missiles and they can bash our missiles, we both reduce.

oh nevermind early morning/late night pipe dream
New An excellent solution: ABMs for all.
It may prove to be the only workable solution, in the end. A lose/lose deterrent and a win/win standing down of *every* hair trigger with verification, inspection, documentation:

allowed by both sides because the alternative - though we have (I have!) lived through it since '47 - is unthinkable, is simply M.A.D.



A.

If it's a pipe dream, it's good stuff
New giggling wildly
Ashton agreeing with me? Heheheh
French Zombies are zapping me with lasers!
New ..only in your rare moments of relative.... lucidity :-\ufffd
New *my* rare moments?
French Zombies are zapping me with lasers!
     WashPost OpEd: Why Russians fears missile defense. - (Another Scott) - (49)
         Re: WashPost OpEd: Why Russians fears missile defense. - (addison) - (44)
             So lemme get this straight... - (jb4) - (41)
                 None of the above - (wharris2)
                 I'll attempt to straighten you out... - (addison) - (39)
                     It's not so simple. - (Another Scott) - (30)
                         No, its not. - (addison) - (16)
                             Couple of things. - (Another Scott) - (15)
                                 Re: Couple of things. - (addison) - (14)
                                     Battling analogies. Bring it on! :-) - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                         Re: Battling analogies. Bring it on! :-) - (addison) - (2)
                                             Morels! :-) - (a6l6e6x) - (1)
                                                 A thousand pardons. :-( - (Another Scott)
                                     The only real problems I see with the ABM shield... - (Simon_Jester) - (9)
                                         My take.... - (bepatient) - (8)
                                             Impossible - (wharris2) - (1)
                                                 There's that issue, too. - (bepatient)
                                             Re: My take.... - (jb4) - (5)
                                                 Every once in a while... - (bepatient) - (4)
                                                     Don't get too used to it...;-) -NT - (jb4) - (3)
                                                         I was humbled more... - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                             Credit where credit is due! -NT - (jb4)
                                                             I used to be humble - (Ashton)
                         Re: Installing in Alaska will do nothing against a threat... - (a6l6e6x) - (2)
                             Alaska was picked because North Korea was viewed ... - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                 Alaska was picked because Sen for life Ted Stevens - (boxley)
                         Scott - catch NPR discussion Mon re Russia version? - (Ashton) - (9)
                             Nope, I missed it. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                 Found it: - (Ashton)
                             Question: how do they propose to do this? - (wharris2) - (6)
                                 Doverai ni proverai.. - (Ashton) - (5)
                                     What is ideal? - (wharris2) - (4)
                                         An excellent solution: ABMs for all. - (Ashton) - (3)
                                             giggling wildly - (wharris2) - (2)
                                                 ..only in your rare moments of relative.... lucidity :-\ufffd -NT - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                     *my* rare moments? -NT - (wharris2)
                     You don't straighten any thing out by adding wrinkles - (jb4) - (7)
                         I didn't. - (addison) - (6)
                             To add a little - (wharris2) - (5)
                                 The imminent threat is not addressed after wasting $BB - (jb4) - (4)
                                     That's merely one possibility. - (addison) - (3)
                                         All of you are missing something - (DonRichards) - (2)
                                             I don't think I'm missing that. - (addison) - (1)
                                                 I don't think I've the patience - (Ashton)
             Good Reason? - (deSitter) - (1)
                 OT: 1990-1991 recession wasn't "deep" - (Another Scott)
         We need a healthy Russian economy - (mhuber) - (3)
             Very well said. Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott)
             Precisamente.. and, it is so evidently basic - (Ashton)
             Good points! -NT - (a6l6e6x)

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