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Post #55,561

10/8/02 6:59:25 PM

So - you don't mind targets? 'K..

I'm curious, though - do you see why I do it?

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Post #55,584

10/8/02 7:40:18 PM

Sure, I see why

With modern browsers [cough not IE-anything] you can configure this however you want, and override this choice on a per-link basis. But if you are using IEx and the link is targetted you have no choice.

There a a few fora I go to where the standard is links within the site open in the same window, outside links open a new window. I'm sure part of this is the old wisdom about how not to lose viewers, but I can also see the two advantages (when it is used responsibly): clear differentiation between internal and external links; and not having to click back through a long chain to get back to where you started.

The second issue is IMO outweighed by the fact that far too many poeople don't use them responsibly. I've been to sites where every single link spawned a new window. And no, it wasn't porn, it was just poor design. (I could see the "base" link at the top of each page right above the "generator = FrontPage" metatag.)

Which leaves differentiation of internal and external links. IMO people who can't already identify this through any of the multiple other UI hints won't get the difference anyway.

So (man this is getting longer than I intended) while I'm not particularly annoyed with them when they are done right (and you've done them "right") I wouldn't put targets in myself, even if it didn't take any extra effort. It's like popups: the utility seems to be outweighed by the potential for abuse.

Oh, take all that with [link|http://www.saltbook.com/saltyages/yan.html|this] or [link|http://www.shirtcountry.com/inc/pdetail?v=1&pid=1245|this], depending on your mood.

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Sorry for the troubles - (orion) - (97) - Sept. 21, 2002, 08:44:38 PM EDT

It's not about your whining... err... troubles - (folkert) - (3) - Sept. 22, 2002, 06:56:36 PM EDT

Well I am confused - (orion) - (2) - Sept. 22, 2002, 10:30:25 PM EDT

Did you get your Uncle"s hair???? - (bepatient) - Sept. 22, 2002, 10:36:52 PM EDT

Please distinguish... - (folkert) - Sept. 22, 2002, 11:26:22 PM EDT

Softly softly. - (static) - (5) - Sept. 23, 2002, 12:20:57 AM EDT

Good advice - (Silverlock) - (4) - Sept. 23, 2002, 01:09:43 AM EDT

That's not quite what I meant, but that's okay. :-) -NT - (static) - (2) - Sept. 23, 2002, 01:31:47 AM EDT

I know what you meant - (Silverlock) - (1) - Sept. 23, 2002, 09:49:40 AM EDT

Troublemaker.. - (Ashton) - Sept. 24, 2002, 04:03:12 PM EDT

Muahahaha, great one! :-) - (CRConrad) - Sept. 23, 2002, 09:26:48 AM EDT

I personally cannot believe it - (tseliot) - (2) - Sept. 23, 2002, 01:58:24 PM EDT

IT with kids in the house - (jake123) - (1) - Sept. 24, 2002, 04:12:14 PM EDT

Now imagine.. - (Ashton) - Sept. 24, 2002, 05:06:50 PM EDT

You are set up Norm! - (Snitcherooni) - (83) - Sept. 27, 2002, 10:30:15 PM EDT

Take it elsewhere... - (ChrisR) - (65) - Sept. 27, 2002, 10:44:14 PM EDT

Re: Take it elsewhere... - (deSitter) - (64) - Sept. 27, 2002, 11:19:16 PM EDT

seconded -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 27, 2002, 11:21:18 PM EDT

Doesn't change my response - (bepatient) - Sept. 28, 2002, 01:57:13 AM EDT

Doesn't seem like NK's writing to me. - (Another Scott) - (61) - Sept. 28, 2002, 11:16:34 AM EDT

Not me, but it disturbs me greatly - (orion) - Sept. 29, 2002, 11:06:38 PM EDT

Not me, but it disturbs me greatly - (orion) - Sept. 29, 2002, 11:05:48 PM EDT

No, the actual telltale sign.. - (deSitter) - (58) - Sept. 30, 2002, 04:12:33 AM EDT

Interesting - (orion) - (57) - Sept. 30, 2002, 07:12:08 AM EDT

Re: Interesting - (deSitter) - (48) - Sept. 30, 2002, 10:57:30 AM EDT

What can I do then? - (orion) - (47) - Oct. 3, 2002, 09:50:14 PM EDT

get a scrip for androgel - (boxley) - (2) - Oct. 3, 2002, 10:03:51 PM EDT

May not be the problem - (orion) - (1) - Oct. 4, 2002, 11:12:00 PM EDT

Not quite right. - (Another Scott) - Oct. 7, 2002, 08:22:46 PM EDT

Re: What can I do then? - (deSitter) - (43) - Oct. 3, 2002, 11:03:16 PM EDT

Re: What can I do then? - (deSitter) - (42) - Oct. 3, 2002, 11:06:58 PM EDT

That would've been my suggestion. -NT - (bepatient) - Oct. 3, 2002, 11:08:22 PM EDT

Apologizing - (orion) - (40) - Oct. 4, 2002, 11:10:33 PM EDT

No - (deSitter) - (38) - Oct. 4, 2002, 11:49:52 PM EDT

Apology again - (orion) - (37) - Oct. 7, 2002, 07:35:41 PM EDT

no prob norm -NT - (boxley) - Oct. 7, 2002, 07:38:45 PM EDT

Of Course! - (deSitter) - (30) - Oct. 7, 2002, 07:44:51 PM EDT

There is a fine line - (orion) - (29) - Oct. 7, 2002, 08:16:13 PM EDT

Heh - I'm still looking for the pencil to draw it with... -NT - (imric) - Oct. 7, 2002, 08:21:06 PM EDT

Bullshit - (deSitter) - (27) - Oct. 7, 2002, 08:22:05 PM EDT

I dunno... - (imric) - (25) - Oct. 7, 2002, 08:33:15 PM EDT

Very nice - (Ashton) - Oct. 7, 2002, 10:40:00 PM EDT

Stupid request - (ben_tilly) - (23) - Oct. 8, 2002, 07:04:00 AM EDT

Sure... - (imric) - (5) - Oct. 8, 2002, 08:31:58 AM EDT

Re: Sure... - (deSitter) - (4) - Oct. 8, 2002, 09:46:38 AM EDT

Nice to be appreciated - thanks! -NT - (imric) - (3) - Oct. 8, 2002, 07:01:08 PM EDT

Re: Nice to be appreciated - thanks! - (deSitter) - Oct. 8, 2002, 08:27:00 PM EDT

Re: Nice to be appreciated - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 8, 2002, 11:30:34 PM EDT

*blush* -NT - (imric) - Oct. 9, 2002, 09:06:54 AM EDT

Targets & tags -- annoying as hell - (kmself) - (16) - Oct. 8, 2002, 01:30:46 PM EDT

*shrug* Tell you what. Let's vote on it. - (imric) - (15) - Oct. 8, 2002, 06:31:23 PM EDT

What he's talking about - (drewk) - (3) - Oct. 8, 2002, 06:52:45 PM EDT

So - you don't mind targets? 'K.. - (imric) - (1) - Oct. 8, 2002, 06:59:25 PM EDT

Sure, I see why - (drewk) - Oct. 8, 2002, 07:40:18 PM EDT

What he said - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 8, 2002, 07:11:47 PM EDT

FWIW, I've always disliked targeted links. - (admin) - (2) - Oct. 8, 2002, 07:04:54 PM EDT

Bribes... - (imric) - (1) - Oct. 8, 2002, 07:29:32 PM EDT

Bah. - (admin) - Oct. 8, 2002, 07:34:15 PM EDT

If I see a link in Imric's post I know a new window will pop - (boxley) - Oct. 8, 2002, 07:54:11 PM EDT

Re: *shrug* Tell you what. Let's vote on it. - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 8, 2002, 08:16:53 PM EDT

your target did not link :-) -NT - (boxley) - Oct. 8, 2002, 08:44:42 PM EDT

Can see both sides. - (Another Scott) - Oct. 8, 2002, 08:56:11 PM EDT

How to open in new windows, block target-generated windows - (kmself) - (3) - Oct. 9, 2002, 03:31:10 AM EDT

*smile* OK, then, no problems anymore? Ben, anyone? - (imric) - (2) - Oct. 9, 2002, 09:05:33 AM EDT

I can't use Karsten's solution - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Oct. 9, 2002, 06:48:43 PM EDT

Hmmm. - (imric) - Oct. 9, 2002, 07:58:14 PM EDT

absolutely true Im quite off brand myself - (boxley) - Oct. 8, 2002, 07:51:55 AM EDT

*smile* - (imric) - Oct. 7, 2002, 08:19:05 PM EDT

Sure thing, man. -NT - (bepatient) - Oct. 7, 2002, 08:22:29 PM EDT

Much better - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 7, 2002, 09:27:41 PM EDT

De nada. -NT - (Ashton) - Oct. 7, 2002, 10:42:44 PM EDT

Yes, and Thanks. -NT - (Steve Lowe) - Oct. 8, 2002, 03:44:48 AM EDT

A tip - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 5, 2002, 07:36:01 AM EDT

What's really interesting... - (admin) - (7) - Sept. 30, 2002, 12:39:34 PM EDT

That address responds to ping - (SpiceWare) - (5) - Sept. 30, 2002, 01:51:48 PM EDT

Re: That address responds to ping - (deSitter) - (4) - Sept. 30, 2002, 02:17:35 PM EDT

Some personal accountability would be nice. - (admin) - (2) - Sept. 30, 2002, 02:20:47 PM EDT

Any chance of a 3rd person in STL - (boxley) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2002, 09:10:48 PM EDT

... - (admin) - Sept. 30, 2002, 09:30:45 PM EDT

? - (SpiceWare) - Sept. 30, 2002, 10:15:22 PM EDT

Interesting enough - (orion) - Oct. 3, 2002, 09:58:40 PM EDT

Fsck off bucko! -NT - (bepatient) - Oct. 5, 2002, 11:13:14 AM EDT

Right. - (pwhysall) - (15) - Sept. 28, 2002, 02:28:40 AM EDT

What do I know - (orion) - (14) - Sept. 29, 2002, 08:35:46 PM EDT

time to adjust again, working again has changed - (boxley) - Sept. 29, 2002, 08:38:56 PM EDT

Forgive me if I don't see a problem... - (bepatient) - (11) - Sept. 29, 2002, 09:15:33 PM EDT

Apparently not Klez - (orion) - (10) - Sept. 29, 2002, 11:01:16 PM EDT

Klez spoofs sender - (kmself) - Sept. 30, 2002, 12:14:56 AM EDT

I presume . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (8) - Sept. 30, 2002, 12:58:23 AM EDT

Re: I presume . . - (deSitter) - (3) - Sept. 30, 2002, 04:52:11 AM EDT

What fun? - (orion) - Sept. 30, 2002, 06:38:13 AM EDT

Actually you likely didn't miss it - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2002, 07:56:48 AM EDT

Re: Actually you likely didn't miss it - (deSitter) - Sept. 30, 2002, 12:04:02 PM EDT

Re: I presume . . - (orion) - (3) - Sept. 30, 2002, 06:44:59 AM EDT

Stop using windows - (jake123) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2002, 12:13:48 PM EDT

I know - (orion) - Oct. 3, 2002, 10:01:45 PM EDT

We use Command antivirus . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Sept. 30, 2002, 12:35:28 PM EDT

Fair weather friends? - (a6l6e6x) - Sept. 29, 2002, 09:25:05 PM EDT

I’ve heard that Vicks Vapo-Rub tastes exactly like chicken.
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