May not be the problem

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10/4/02 11:12:00 PM

May not be the problem

I am still as hairy as ever, loss of testosterone will cause hair loss, of which I have not had none. I am still a hairy mutant. :) Besides the side-effects of androgel may not be worth using it, and may conflict with some other medicine I am currently taking for my illnesses.

Thanks for the suggestion, if find out I do have a loss of testosterone I will ask my doctor about it.

[link|http://games.speakeasy.net/data/files/khan.jpg|"Khan!!!" -Kirk]

Post #55,379

by Another Scott

10/7/02 8:22:46 PM

Not quite right.

I am still as hairy as ever, loss of testosterone will cause hair loss, of which I have not had none.

That's not quite the way it works.

Male pattern baldness is associated with the conversion of testosterone to dihydrotestosterone. If you've got a low testosterone level, you're less likely to have hair loss by that mechanism. In short, being hairy is not an indication that you've got plenty of testosterone.

More [link|http://www.pslgroup.com/dg/4ec06.htm|here] - a news blurb about Propecia:

Hair count increased during the first year and was maintained in those men taking Propecia for 24 months. Men in the placebo group continued to show progressive hair loss. In an analysis of the men who were followed for up to two years, only 17 percent of men treated with Propecia demonstrated hair loss (defined as any decrease in hair count from baseline); 83 percent had the same or higher hair count. In contrast, 72 percent of the placebo group lost hair, as measured by hair count.

[...]

In clinical studies, side effects were uncommon and did not affect most men. A small number of men reported less desire for sex, difficulty in achieving an erection and/or a decrease in the amount of semen. Each of these effects occurred in less than two percent of men. These side effects went away in all men who discontinued therapy because of them and also disappeared in 58 percent of men who chose to continue taking Propecia.

HTH.

Cheers,
Scott.

Sorry for the troubles - (orion) - (97) - Sept. 21, 2002, 08:44:38 PM EDT

It's not about your whining... err... troubles - (folkert) - (3) - Sept. 22, 2002, 06:56:36 PM EDT

Well I am confused - (orion) - (2) - Sept. 22, 2002, 10:30:25 PM EDT

Did you get your Uncle"s hair???? - (bepatient) - Sept. 22, 2002, 10:36:52 PM EDT

Please distinguish... - (folkert) - Sept. 22, 2002, 11:26:22 PM EDT

Softly softly. - (static) - (5) - Sept. 23, 2002, 12:20:57 AM EDT

Good advice - (Silverlock) - (4) - Sept. 23, 2002, 01:09:43 AM EDT

That's not quite what I meant, but that's okay. :-) -NT - (static) - (2) - Sept. 23, 2002, 01:31:47 AM EDT

I know what you meant - (Silverlock) - (1) - Sept. 23, 2002, 09:49:40 AM EDT

Troublemaker.. - (Ashton) - Sept. 24, 2002, 04:03:12 PM EDT

Muahahaha, great one! :-) - (CRConrad) - Sept. 23, 2002, 09:26:48 AM EDT

I personally cannot believe it - (tseliot) - (2) - Sept. 23, 2002, 01:58:24 PM EDT

IT with kids in the house - (jake123) - (1) - Sept. 24, 2002, 04:12:14 PM EDT

Now imagine.. - (Ashton) - Sept. 24, 2002, 05:06:50 PM EDT

You are set up Norm! - (Snitcherooni) - (83) - Sept. 27, 2002, 10:30:15 PM EDT

Take it elsewhere... - (ChrisR) - (65) - Sept. 27, 2002, 10:44:14 PM EDT

Re: Take it elsewhere... - (deSitter) - (64) - Sept. 27, 2002, 11:19:16 PM EDT

seconded -NT - (boxley) - Sept. 27, 2002, 11:21:18 PM EDT

Doesn't change my response - (bepatient) - Sept. 28, 2002, 01:57:13 AM EDT

Doesn't seem like NK's writing to me. - (Another Scott) - (61) - Sept. 28, 2002, 11:16:34 AM EDT

Not me, but it disturbs me greatly - (orion) - Sept. 29, 2002, 11:06:38 PM EDT

Not me, but it disturbs me greatly - (orion) - Sept. 29, 2002, 11:05:48 PM EDT

No, the actual telltale sign.. - (deSitter) - (58) - Sept. 30, 2002, 04:12:33 AM EDT

Interesting - (orion) - (57) - Sept. 30, 2002, 07:12:08 AM EDT

Re: Interesting - (deSitter) - (48) - Sept. 30, 2002, 10:57:30 AM EDT

What can I do then? - (orion) - (47) - Oct. 3, 2002, 09:50:14 PM EDT

get a scrip for androgel - (boxley) - (2) - Oct. 3, 2002, 10:03:51 PM EDT

May not be the problem - (orion) - (1) - Oct. 4, 2002, 11:12:00 PM EDT

Not quite right. - (Another Scott) - Oct. 7, 2002, 08:22:46 PM EDT

Re: What can I do then? - (deSitter) - (43) - Oct. 3, 2002, 11:03:16 PM EDT

Re: What can I do then? - (deSitter) - (42) - Oct. 3, 2002, 11:06:58 PM EDT

That would've been my suggestion. -NT - (bepatient) - Oct. 3, 2002, 11:08:22 PM EDT

Apologizing - (orion) - (40) - Oct. 4, 2002, 11:10:33 PM EDT

No - (deSitter) - (38) - Oct. 4, 2002, 11:49:52 PM EDT

Apology again - (orion) - (37) - Oct. 7, 2002, 07:35:41 PM EDT

no prob norm -NT - (boxley) - Oct. 7, 2002, 07:38:45 PM EDT

Of Course! - (deSitter) - (30) - Oct. 7, 2002, 07:44:51 PM EDT

There is a fine line - (orion) - (29) - Oct. 7, 2002, 08:16:13 PM EDT

Heh - I'm still looking for the pencil to draw it with... -NT - (imric) - Oct. 7, 2002, 08:21:06 PM EDT

Bullshit - (deSitter) - (27) - Oct. 7, 2002, 08:22:05 PM EDT

I dunno... - (imric) - (25) - Oct. 7, 2002, 08:33:15 PM EDT

Very nice - (Ashton) - Oct. 7, 2002, 10:40:00 PM EDT

Stupid request - (ben_tilly) - (23) - Oct. 8, 2002, 07:04:00 AM EDT

Sure... - (imric) - (5) - Oct. 8, 2002, 08:31:58 AM EDT

Re: Sure... - (deSitter) - (4) - Oct. 8, 2002, 09:46:38 AM EDT

Nice to be appreciated - thanks! -NT - (imric) - (3) - Oct. 8, 2002, 07:01:08 PM EDT

Re: Nice to be appreciated - thanks! - (deSitter) - Oct. 8, 2002, 08:27:00 PM EDT

Re: Nice to be appreciated - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 8, 2002, 11:30:34 PM EDT

*blush* -NT - (imric) - Oct. 9, 2002, 09:06:54 AM EDT

Targets & tags -- annoying as hell - (kmself) - (16) - Oct. 8, 2002, 01:30:46 PM EDT

*shrug* Tell you what. Let's vote on it. - (imric) - (15) - Oct. 8, 2002, 06:31:23 PM EDT

What he's talking about - (drewk) - (3) - Oct. 8, 2002, 06:52:45 PM EDT

So - you don't mind targets? 'K.. - (imric) - (1) - Oct. 8, 2002, 06:59:25 PM EDT

Sure, I see why - (drewk) - Oct. 8, 2002, 07:40:18 PM EDT

What he said - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 8, 2002, 07:11:47 PM EDT

FWIW, I've always disliked targeted links. - (admin) - (2) - Oct. 8, 2002, 07:04:54 PM EDT

Bribes... - (imric) - (1) - Oct. 8, 2002, 07:29:32 PM EDT

Bah. - (admin) - Oct. 8, 2002, 07:34:15 PM EDT

If I see a link in Imric's post I know a new window will pop - (boxley) - Oct. 8, 2002, 07:54:11 PM EDT

Re: *shrug* Tell you what. Let's vote on it. - (deSitter) - (1) - Oct. 8, 2002, 08:16:53 PM EDT

your target did not link :-) -NT - (boxley) - Oct. 8, 2002, 08:44:42 PM EDT

Can see both sides. - (Another Scott) - Oct. 8, 2002, 08:56:11 PM EDT

How to open in new windows, block target-generated windows - (kmself) - (3) - Oct. 9, 2002, 03:31:10 AM EDT

*smile* OK, then, no problems anymore? Ben, anyone? - (imric) - (2) - Oct. 9, 2002, 09:05:33 AM EDT

I can't use Karsten's solution - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Oct. 9, 2002, 06:48:43 PM EDT

Hmmm. - (imric) - Oct. 9, 2002, 07:58:14 PM EDT

absolutely true Im quite off brand myself - (boxley) - Oct. 8, 2002, 07:51:55 AM EDT

*smile* - (imric) - Oct. 7, 2002, 08:19:05 PM EDT

Sure thing, man. -NT - (bepatient) - Oct. 7, 2002, 08:22:29 PM EDT

Much better - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 7, 2002, 09:27:41 PM EDT

De nada. -NT - (Ashton) - Oct. 7, 2002, 10:42:44 PM EDT

Yes, and Thanks. -NT - (Steve Lowe) - Oct. 8, 2002, 03:44:48 AM EDT

A tip - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 5, 2002, 07:36:01 AM EDT

What's really interesting... - (admin) - (7) - Sept. 30, 2002, 12:39:34 PM EDT

That address responds to ping - (SpiceWare) - (5) - Sept. 30, 2002, 01:51:48 PM EDT

Re: That address responds to ping - (deSitter) - (4) - Sept. 30, 2002, 02:17:35 PM EDT

Some personal accountability would be nice. - (admin) - (2) - Sept. 30, 2002, 02:20:47 PM EDT

Any chance of a 3rd person in STL - (boxley) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2002, 09:10:48 PM EDT

... - (admin) - Sept. 30, 2002, 09:30:45 PM EDT

? - (SpiceWare) - Sept. 30, 2002, 10:15:22 PM EDT

Interesting enough - (orion) - Oct. 3, 2002, 09:58:40 PM EDT

Fsck off bucko! -NT - (bepatient) - Oct. 5, 2002, 11:13:14 AM EDT

Right. - (pwhysall) - (15) - Sept. 28, 2002, 02:28:40 AM EDT

What do I know - (orion) - (14) - Sept. 29, 2002, 08:35:46 PM EDT

time to adjust again, working again has changed - (boxley) - Sept. 29, 2002, 08:38:56 PM EDT

Forgive me if I don't see a problem... - (bepatient) - (11) - Sept. 29, 2002, 09:15:33 PM EDT

Apparently not Klez - (orion) - (10) - Sept. 29, 2002, 11:01:16 PM EDT

Klez spoofs sender - (kmself) - Sept. 30, 2002, 12:14:56 AM EDT

I presume . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (8) - Sept. 30, 2002, 12:58:23 AM EDT

Re: I presume . . - (deSitter) - (3) - Sept. 30, 2002, 04:52:11 AM EDT

What fun? - (orion) - Sept. 30, 2002, 06:38:13 AM EDT

Actually you likely didn't miss it - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2002, 07:56:48 AM EDT

Re: Actually you likely didn't miss it - (deSitter) - Sept. 30, 2002, 12:04:02 PM EDT

Re: I presume . . - (orion) - (3) - Sept. 30, 2002, 06:44:59 AM EDT

Stop using windows - (jake123) - (1) - Sept. 30, 2002, 12:13:48 PM EDT

I know - (orion) - Oct. 3, 2002, 10:01:45 PM EDT

We use Command antivirus . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Sept. 30, 2002, 12:35:28 PM EDT

Fair weather friends? - (a6l6e6x) - Sept. 29, 2002, 09:25:05 PM EDT

You left them alone in a room with a penguin?! Mr. Gates, your men are already dead.
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