Buying a car.

Post #54,615 by static 10/3/02 2:09:01 AM Reply	Buying a car. I have one rule about buying expensive things: Don't get a loan for something that will depreciate in value. e.g. computers, cars. I have never got into debt to buy a car. I save instead. My last car cost my AU$16450 or so, earlier this year. It was a one year old 1.8L Mitsubishi Lancer. No finance. :-) But it took me about a month to choose it - and that's after I started actually looking. I'd been researching on and off for months. Why a Lancer? I'd had another Mitsubishi earlier in life and found it a nice, reliable car. Easy to get serviced, easy to drive. Lots of them about. There are lots of Lancers on the road! The size and the power-to-weight ratio appealed. Other cars I'd considered included Hyundai, but early Hyundais had a bad reputation for ageing quickly and even the newer ones give the impression of cheapness. I wanted to save money, but not that badly. Another thing turning me off Korean cars is that my brother has a Daewoo wagon as a work car. Admittedly, it's a tradie's wagon (he's a locksmith) so it gets pushed hard, but he will complain it about readily if you ask (the steering has never been good). I'd thought about a Toyota Camry, but I'd driven one on holidays earlier this year and even though it was supposed to be a 3L V6, it was very lack lustre. But your foot down and maybe it'd think about it. I'd also considered a Magna: but I was moving down in size from a Holden Commodore and the Magna wasn't that kind of step. (Besides, I wanted a manual and manual Magnas are very rare.) I was tempted in buying a new Mini - my first car was a Mini - but the new price was a bit out of my range. And I wasn't going to get finance on it! :-) So. Have I gotten value for money? I'd say so. My Lancer pulls well across the range - even if you miss third :-). And since I will hang on to it for at least 6 years (that's just me) I will be able to use out the warranty. Wade. "Ah. One of the difficult questions."
Post #54,642 by folkert 10/3/02 10:14:25 AM Reply	With the Lancer, I concur... I just bought(well, actually 12/31/2001) a 2002 Lancer... super nice car. And I did, get a 2 year 0% loan with 0% startup fees. Drove on the Lot with my 1994 Buick Park Avenue Ultra... drove off with my new Lancer. I love this car, the one and only thing I miss from my Buick is the Auto-Dimming Rear-view mirror. I will be changing out that soon with on from a 2000 Olds Aurora. Slick. The whole exudes quality. Motor runs GREAT. Great Mileage, Great response, firm suspension, Positive shifts. I run Shell Rotella-T in all my vehicles year round, keeps em really clean. `greg - Grand-Master Artist in IT, curley95@attbi.com -- [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry/\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!!!] Your friendly Homeland Security Officer reminds: Hold Thumbprint to Screen for 5 seconds, we'll take the imprint, or Just continue to type on your keyboard, and we'll just sample your DNA.`
Post #55,057 by admin 10/5/02 11:46:17 AM Reply	It's definitely a nice car. Any car you can ride 24 hours in over the space of a few days... :-) Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #55,233 by static 10/7/02 6:22:25 AM Reply	That's it in a nutshell. Or, to put it like my sister would: "it just goes!". And the very positive gate on the gear shift was an immediate like when I test-drove one. My prior car was an automatic, but all before that were manual and I thought it was time to go manual again. Wade. Manual Holden Commodores are very rare and I'd almost wished I'd found one if only to keep the resale value up. However, they are known to have a heavy clutch. :-/ "Ah. One of the difficult questions."
Post #55,251 by boxley 10/7/02 9:39:03 AM Reply	the last mistubishi I drove was a gallant at about 91 mph the front end got very light, is the lancer the same way? Thats why I didnt consider a mistubishi. lancers are being offered new locally at about 12,900 thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] qui mori didicit servire dedidicit
Post #55,252 by bepatient 10/7/02 9:41:35 AM Reply	Front end doesn't lighten on mine... ...till well over 100...not that I would ever actually know this ;-) It cruises at 90 quite nicely...not that I would ever actually know this either ;-) 2001 model year. Front aero package. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #55,254 by boxley 10/7/02 9:42:53 AM Reply	well they were rentals, hmm time for test drive will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] qui mori didicit servire dedidicit
Post #55,262 by bepatient 10/7/02 10:17:23 AM Reply	one possible reason... ...I got the V6. Front end is alot heavier. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #55,383 by folkert 10/7/02 8:41:54 PM Reply	Well.... NOPE! I have ummm... well... Here is WHAT I heard, at least: My Lancer puportedly has been seen above 130MPH... through the Downtown Grand Rapids "S"-curve... it was supposedly trading the lead with a Subaru WRX, which just so happens, the owner lives about 10 doors down from me... I believe, it took about 5 minutes to get from 44th street on the south end... to Ann Street on the north end... ~11 miles... Only thing I HEARD about the handling... was the rear-end was a bit filghty turning at speed... But, now really folks I don't KNOW who was driving my Lancer... but all I can say... is it is still in one piece. And it still runs great... Yes this Lancer has the "OZ Rally" package. Makes it have better downforce at speed... or so I have heard about that... `greg - Grand-Master Artist in IT, curley95@attbi.com -- [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry/\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!!!] Your friendly Homeland Security Officer reminds: Hold Thumbprint to Screen for 5 seconds, we'll take the imprint, or Just continue to type on your keyboard, and we'll just sample your DNA.`
Post #55,386 by bepatient 10/7/02 8:51:09 PM Reply	rofl...reminds me of a story I heard... ...about a guy who was tempted to make last call in Tempe AZ from Glendale...a 45 minute drive at the posted limit...the problem was there were only 20 minutes available... The top speed of a Mazda MX6 Turbo is 142 mph (trust me)...and the guy managed to get in 2 drinks;-) There was another story about a trip to AC, a Santana concert and a red convertible Jag with an embarrassed driver. 142mph (trust me) Who would do anything like >that< I wonder..... You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #55,415 by Ashton 10/7/02 11:41:19 PM Reply	Those short trips can be fun How about SF to LA (IIRC using a lot of Hwy 33 to avoid such as 99 and 101) - and about 50 years ago BTW - in 5 hrs ~15 min. Over the lengthier route stealth required, that was ~ 93 mph average. (not moi; but less'n a cargo plane plucked him off the road - the times were noted door-door) Hmmm ever seen 130ish on a farming area blacktop with no lines, sometimes? But then, these sprints are Ok too, for getting the flavour of what it might be like to - Ashton Oh yeah it was on a Vincent - any extras for 2 wheels and no A/c?
Post #55,424 by boxley 10/8/02 12:16:53 AM Reply	howsabout bakersfield to carson <5 hrs including beer stop on 395 natch, thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] qui mori didicit servire dedidicit
Post #55,437 by bepatient 10/8/02 1:28:04 AM Reply	Extra points for 2 wheels... Long term averages are separate stories...Copenhagen to The Hague would be on the list...but wheres the fun in that...since most of the trip was Audobahn...and thus legal ;) You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #55,426 by boxley 10/8/02 12:18:52 AM Reply	now I have seen these lancer thingys advertised <12K new locally, what do I look for and what should be included and at what price. thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] qui mori didicit servire dedidicit
Post #55,444 by CRConrad 10/8/02 3:07:31 AM Reply	If you need data, ask about the Colt. Judging from your unfamiliarity with it, the Lancer is rather rare in the USA. More so than the Mitsubushi Colt, it seems...? If so, then you can ask around about the Colt, that info shouold be applicable to the Lancer too -- because the Lancer is basically just a Colt with a "backpack" in the form of a trunk/boot grafted on. HTH! Christian R. Conrad Microsoft is a true reflection of Bill Gates' personality - the sleaziest, most unethical, ugliest little rat's ass the world has seen unto this time. -- [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=42971\|Andrew Grygus]
Post #55,457 by ben_tilly 10/8/02 7:13:24 AM Reply	Reminds me of a story Happened to a friend of my sister Suzanne. He had two cars. One of them a rather nice sports car that he didn't use most of the time. One night he was using it. Noticed that he had breezed past a police car doing well over double the speed limit. Soon noticed the police car disappearing in the distance. Also noticed that he was on a long interstate with no exits, and didn't have a hope in hell of getting away with this. He ditched the car. Hitchhiked home. Next morning a nice officer came to his door. "Do you own a ____." "Yes, why?" "Were you driving it last night?" "No, why?" "It was seen on I-5 doing 140 mph..." He runs down to his garage and asks the officer if it is OK. "Oh it is fine. Some kids just took it out for a joyride." This related to me as we were sitting in a car waiting for the nice officer to finish writing her her first speeding ticket in years. :-) Cheers, Ben "Career politicians are inherently untrustworthy; if it spends its life buzzing around the outhouse, it\ufffds probably a fly." - [link\|http://www.nationalinterest.org/issues/58/Mead.html\|Walter Mead]
Post #55,675 by static 10/9/02 2:47:29 AM Reply	91 mph, lessee that's 146 km/h... ... so I have no idea. The fastest mine's ever been with me in it is ~120 km/h. And it seemed to be holding the road just as fine at that speed as it does at 60-70 km/h. shrug But it was down a relatively straight stretch of freeway. Wade. "Ah. One of the difficult questions."
Post #55,697 by boxley 10/9/02 7:54:36 AM Reply	Eh, what do ya do with the other half of the motor? since yer not using it to drive :-) thanx, bill will work for cash and other incentives [link\|http://home.tampabay.rr.com/boxley/resume/Resume.html\|skill set] "Therefore, by objective standards, the leading managers of the U.S. economy...are collectively, clinically insane." Lyndon LaRouche

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