Cough. That's Declaration of Independence...

Post #5,069 by Simon_Jester 8/14/01 1:53:59 PM Reply	Cough. That's Declaration of Independence... not Bill of Rights. The Declaration, as nice as it is, isn't a document of the Government of the United States. (Hell, it was written before the Articles.) However, I think you'll find that Admendment 4 suits your needs. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
Post #5,084 by addison 8/14/01 2:41:45 PM Reply	Not really. The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Notice the explicitness of that. Now, even assuming that's being more literal than was intendend.. it doesn't approach the problem here - that of public images (and their storage/retrieval/use). If you walk down the street, and have something illegal in your pocket, there must be that said probable cause to search you. If you walk down the street with something illegal in your hand - no such probable cause is needed (the sight is all that is needed). Thereupon lies the big difference. The 4th is talking about the protection of private property. This issue is where are the limits of data collection, of someone in public. (For instance, that's why the thermal imagers were tossed out on 4th amendment grounds - they were used to penetrate into the houses, without warrent) Addison
Post #5,088 by Fearless Freep 8/14/01 2:45:52 PM Reply	Umm..actually.... I thought he was saying that the fourth amendment gives you the right to run around naked with a chicken on your head.... Jay O'Connor "Going places unmapped to do things unplanned to people unsuspecting"
Post #5,093 by addison 8/14/01 2:51:14 PM Reply	Errr. He was?
Post #5,100 by Fearless Freep 8/14/01 2:59:07 PM Reply	Yeah... ...go back to [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=5060\|Don's post] He was talking about running around...etc.. I replied saying that his behavior was probably protected as a right to "liberty, and the persuit of happiness". Simon countered that I was quoting from the Dec. Of Independence, which was not a legal document, but went on to say that the proper reference was porbably the 4th amendment. I thought he meant that as an alternative to what I said, in defense of of the naked chicken running Jay O'Connor "Going places unmapped to do things unplanned to people unsuspecting"
Post #5,101 by addison 8/14/01 3:00:24 PM Reply	Oh. Well, in that case I misunderstood. :) Sorry 'bout that. Addison
Post #5,112 by DonRichards 8/14/01 3:15:34 PM Reply	NCRs unite! All naked chicken runners are better than clothed chicken runners and we deserve recognition, awards and free coupons entitling us to half off at any participating vendor. "When it crosses my mind to do something, I don't ask why, I ask why not. And usually there's no reason not to, so I just go ahead. It's given me the strangest collection of hats"

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