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New Give me an alternate solution or stfu.
Saying, "there might be another way," without providing another way is ego-surfing at its worst.

"Achieving Artifical Intelligence" is inherently a statement of anthropomorphic expectation. If you want some other sort of intelligence, talk about it in another thread.

Dang, I'm getting tired of shotgun snipers...
That's her, officer! That's the woman that programmed me for evil!
New "human-like" vs. "smart"
>> "Achieving Artifical Intelligence" is inherently a statement of anthropomorphic expectation. If you want some other sort of intelligence, talk about it in another thread. <<

This is terminology issue which probably could last forever, but there are two competiting definitions of AI. One is making machines "human-like", and the other is making them "smart". If a machine was Volcan-like, I would still consider it "smart", but not really "human-like".

>> Saying, "there might be another way," without providing another way is ego-surfing at its worst. <<

The bottom line is that we don't know. It is like OO proof: without it all one can say is that they DON'T KNOW if X is objectively better than Y. (Note that OO being better for your own mind is not the same as being objectively better.)

If you DO know for sure one way or the other, then please present your evidence.
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New On another tack
There might be another way of achieving AI, just as their might be a way of making real strawberry jam without the need for strawberries, sugar, water or pectin; stating this is a completely worthless exercise UNLESS you are willing to discuss the mysterious "other way". Because it's *bleedin' obvious* that there *MIGHT* be another way.

If you can't be arsed to think, at least have the good grace to not parade your intellectual laziness here.
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     Article about brute force and AI - (tablizer) - (22)
         Interesting! Thanks for the link. - (a6l6e6x)
         Hooey. - (tseliot) - (20)
             exactamento how do you code an orgasm? - (boxley) - (8)
                 Re: exactamento how do you code an orgasm? - (a6l6e6x)
                 It appears that greed has been coded. - (a6l6e6x) - (3)
                     "Lust" should be amusing .... -NT - (Fearless Freep) - (1)
                         Microsoft has dibs on implementing that one... -NT - (ben_tilly)
                     P H B-line - (tablizer)
                 st....think tank - (tablizer) - (1)
                     Well, I suppose that's an appropriate... - (CRConrad)
                 Which is why camp #1 will never get anywhere -NT - (tseliot)
             Yeah - who cares? Organisms care. - (mhuber) - (5)
                 Agony of defeat - (tablizer) - (4)
                     Not bashing Cmdr. Data - (mhuber)
                     Not bashing Cmdr. Data - (mhuber)
                     Not bashing Cmdr. Data - (mhuber) - (1)
                         End Loop: Not bashing Cmdr. Data :) -NT - (a6l6e6x)
             Well.. we shall *never* have That! - (Ashton)
             Body is not a prereq. - (tablizer) - (3)
                 Give me an alternate solution or stfu. - (tseliot) - (2)
                     "human-like" vs. "smart" - (tablizer) - (1)
                         On another tack - (pwhysall)

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