Nice to know we're doing our part..

Post #49,162 by Ashton 8/13/02 3:19:57 AM Reply	Nice to know we're doing our part.. But we're cancelling out our pre-planning of their populations simultaneously - given the slashes to birth control by the current Holy Admin (a small part in our already miniscule %GDP of foreign aid, anyway) - so which is it gonna be? Pop.control via exported toxics / pop. increase via withheld aid for clinics? Ya Can't Have Both! Maybe it's too subtle for me to get - some o' that Hilbert spaciness perhaps? Ashton
Post #49,186 by bepatient 8/13/02 9:53:13 AM Reply	But >we< are the evil polluters! See...Kyoto was too strict and would be [link\|http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/1997/global.warming/disagreements/\|economically ruinous] to China...and yet India, China and the Asian subcontinent are all far worse polluters than we in the US. Yet we had to cut our emissions by 93% while China continues to get worse and most of the worst developing offenders were not even listed in the agreement. Yet we (US) are the evil, nasty destroyers of the planet. I get it now. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #49,190 by CRConrad 8/13/02 10:19:51 AM Reply	Uh... Let me get this straight... Our staunch Virginian -- oops, I mean West Virginian -- BeePs: Yet we had to cut our emissions by 93% while China continues to get worse and most of the worst developing offenders were not even listed in the agreement. Les'see now... You mean, "we" (=the USA, I assume) are cutting emissions by 93% -- in part by SENDING YOUR TOXIC COMPUTERS TO China to be "recycled"? And China "continues to get worse" -- in part by "recycling" YOUR TOXIC COMPUTERS? Yeah, poor poor you -- always the downtrodden ones; always sacrificing yourselves for others... GMAB. Christian R. Conrad Microsoft is a true reflection of Bill Gates' personality - the sleaziest, most unethical, ugliest little rat's ass the world has seen unto this time. -- [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=42971\|Andrew Grygus]
Post #49,262 by Ashton 8/13/02 7:02:46 PM Reply	Add: Mexico and other dumps, of course Alas Mexico, the maquiladores ecology-Free zones - whose locked-in serf-labor replaces as much US labor as Corps can manage: is a bit close to home, given the weather and all. So there may be some US lip-service paid to "cleaning up this small oversight". But like the at-home Toxics SuperFund - any $$ spent for this unprofitable work initially --- shall fade away.. at the attention-span's allowed rate. Sounds like a Capitalist Win to me: A) Fight wars n'stuff so as to continue using up everyone Else's petroleum / save Ours - at prices and production rates we kinda subtly umm 'influence'. B) Be generous though: export the worst garbage with the same alacrity. Seems fair: import/export. Ashton What fools these mortals be! Puck
Post #49,265 by drewk 8/13/02 7:21:02 PM Reply	Makes sense And China "continues to get worse" -- in part by "recycling" YOUR TOXIC COMPUTERS? Well, they built most of the components, so we're really just sending them back. ;p === Microsoft offers them the one thing most business people will pay any price for - the ability to say "we had no choice - everyone's doing it that way." -- [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=38978\|Andrew Grygus]
Post #49,353 by bepatient 8/14/02 1:13:36 PM Reply	And again.. ..we are the evil destroyers of the planet by pulling out of Kyoto...which addressed nothing about correcting the problems in areas where pollution is FAR worse. Why can't everyone just face the fact that the Kyoto agreement was just >bad<...did little or nothing to address the true problem and get over it. Instead..we continue to get [link\|http://www.softwolves.pp.se/misc/gwb.en.shtml\|this]. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]

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