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New A tip on links, and a good additional one
Today if you remember a good quote, you can go to google, enter it with double-quotes around it, and you usually will come up with a pretty good reference to give out.

As for links, my favorite that I have seen today is [link|http://www.cbi.umn.edu/collections/inv/burros/ewd594.htm|this parable]. :-)

Cheers,
Ben
Computer Science is no more about computers than astronomy is about telescopes.
-- Edsger Wybe Dijkstra (1930-2002)
New But, that is entirely unneccessary . .
. . someone always does that for me.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
New Re: the parable
Programmers, as a rule, are delighted by it, and managers, invariably, get more and more annoyed as the story progresses; true mathematicians, however, fail to see the point.

And people who have worked from someone else's specs, without the opportunity to participate in creating the spec, just once too often ... are completely unsurprised. I mean come on, if you're going to remove an amenity you have to consider the impact it will have on the customers. Then you calculate lost business by simply sucking up the complaints vs. money saved. Then you consider ways to mitigate the complaints and what they would cost.

(Ok, self[1], stop ranting now. It's just a story. [pant pant ... whhhhhhhhhhhhoooooooooo])

[1] Not you, Self.
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Microsoft offers them the one thing most business people will pay any price for - the ability to say "we had no choice - everyone's doing it that way." -- [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=38978|Andrew Grygus]
     RIP, Edsger Wybe Dijkstra - (Yendor) - (28)
         He will be missed - (ben_tilly)
         Edsger Dijkstra - a humble giant of Computer Science. -NT - (a6l6e6x)
         Wasn't he the one who quipped... - (jb4) - (23)
             OK here's what I found so far: - (jb4)
             No, the quote was: - (Andrew Grygus) - (21)
                 A link for the quotes... - (ChrisR) - (16)
                     Thanks! - (jb4) - (15)
                         Ten blunt axes - (wharris2) - (14)
                             VB is not a programming language... - (ChrisR) - (13)
                                 VB sucks, but the PHBs love it - (orion) - (12)
                                     Best of the worst - (ChrisR) - (11)
                                         A cogent commentary. -NT - (wharris2)
                                         RE Objective C - (tuberculosis) - (4)
                                             Yeah, but it won't work for embedded -NT - (tonytib)
                                             Have you actually tried Delphi, so you can compare fairly? - (CRConrad) - (2)
                                                 My Delphi Experience - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                                                     Delphi evangelism, continued... (new thread) - (CRConrad)
                                         Several counterpoints - (jb4) - (4)
                                             What version of gcc are you using? - (Arkadiy) - (3)
                                                 Re: What version of gcc are you using? - (jb4) - (2)
                                                     Re: What version of gcc are you using? - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                                                         I'd rather switch than... - (jb4)
                 A tip on links, and a good additional one - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                     But, that is entirely unneccessary . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                     Re: the parable - (drewk)
                 Yes, that was it. - (static)
         The one I always remember - (tuberculosis)
         Dime store Platonism - (andread)

In th' stables, m'lord.
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