Post #444,839
10/3/24 9:16:17 PM
10/3/24 9:16:17 PM
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recent developments part deux
Last week her left leg began to swell, assuming something resembling its pre-cancer proportions—her right leg would not look out of place in a photo of the “Miss Dachau 1945” finalists—and CæsarCare first said “Keep an eye on it” and then, a day later, it was “Yeah, no, you’d better come in.” It was a blood clot, likely cancer related. A thrombectomy was contemplated, but the clot was deemed too “extensive,” and surgery carried with it the risk of bits being dislodged and carried every which where, with a pulmonary embolism ranking among the likeliest undesirable consequences. It’s accordingly now—she was discharged yesterday following a three-day confinement—a regimen of blood thinner tablets twice a day (a dollar per pill, not covered!), with the caution, not unlike what I was told eight years ago when my cardiac plumbing was reamed out, “Never, never miss a scheduled dose!”
So that be where we be. She is considerably cheered by the likelihood that she’ll be able to cast one last presidential ballot—California will mail these out beginning next week—a prospect that was by no means certain in August.
cordially,
cordially,
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Post #444,840
10/3/24 9:24:13 PM
10/3/24 9:24:13 PM
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Thanks for the updates.
We're pulling for both of you.
Things are looking good for Kamala and Tim, and not so good for Donnie and JV. Let's hope that you and she and all of us will be able to celebrate a little on the evening of November 5.
I've got my mail-in ballot. I'm going to try to drop it off in the drop box on the way home from work tomorrow.
Hang in there.
Best wishes, Scott.
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Post #444,842
10/3/24 11:09:01 PM
10/3/24 11:09:01 PM
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given the history
…I ain’t celebrating until Kamala’s hand comes off the Koran once Ali Khamenei has sworn her in on January 20 and universal Sharia law is—Inshallah!—at last imposed.
Seriously, these guys, assuming they don’t ratfuck the election by then, are going to go balls to the wall after next month.
cautiously,
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Post #444,841
10/3/24 9:50:18 PM
10/3/24 9:50:18 PM
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The blood thinner also makes a stroke less likely to occur.
Alex
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
-- Isaac Asimov
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Post #444,844
10/4/24 8:45:54 AM
10/5/24 7:58:49 AM
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Yeah, that's why I'm on that too... Maybe. 50-50 chance I am.
I signed up for a drug test while hospitalised last fall, so I'm taking a pill of "BAY 2433334" a day. Or, to be more precise, what it says on the tin is "BAY 2433334 or placebo".
But personally I think it's quite a bit better odds than 50% that I'm on the real stuff: One of the possible side effects they warned about was itchy skin, and I had a bout of that in, Idunno, February or so. A week off this and on antihistamines in stead, then back on it, no problem since. But what do I know, maybe they're being so thorough that they use a placebo that also has a chance of inducing itches? Doesn't feel all that plausible, so I think I'm on a blood thinner.
The other stuff I'm on -- "for real", i.e. prescribed as a mandatory reaction to my stroke -- is called Clopidogrel, and is not a blood thinner but an anticoagulant antiplatelet drug, if I've understood correctly. (Which I apparently hadn't.)
Ah, we're getting to be quite the gang of druggies, as we age...
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Edited by CRConrad
Oct. 5, 2024, 07:58:49 AM EDT
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Post #444,852
10/4/24 4:06:33 PM
10/4/24 4:06:33 PM
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I don't know about where you are,
but around here "blood thinner is just an easier way to say "anticoagulant".
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Post #444,857
10/5/24 7:56:09 AM
10/5/24 7:56:09 AM
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Aha, my mistake
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Post #444,858
10/5/24 8:42:50 AM
10/5/24 8:42:50 AM
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Oh, of course
It's not an anticoagulant, it's a platelet agglutination inhibitor. [Google definition ... "Agglutination is the clumping of particles."] Yes, very different. /s
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Post #444,864
10/6/24 5:25:33 AM
10/6/24 5:25:33 AM
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Didn't even read the WP article I linked to, nor check up on coagulation, so this may be wrong AF...
...but I think the difference is what kind of particles agglutinate. "Coagulation" is the agglutination of proteins in general, so that's what anti-coagulants work against; whereas "platelet agglutination inhibitors" speficially, eh, inhibit the agglutination of blood platelets. (Which, yeah, probably consist mostly of proteins, so...)
But anyway, AIUI they put me in the test because while they don't want their results confounded by people being on another anti-coagulant, being on a platelet agglutination inhibitor (in my case, Clopidogrel) apparently doesn't influence the test like that.
Idunno, I just religiously take my test-or-placebo pill every day and go to the hospital and talk to the nurse who runs the practical aspects of the test in Finland every three months (except over summer, when it's six; she gave me two tins of pills in spring). No effects I've noticed so far -- except that bout of itchy skin last winter -- so I'm guessing it can't hurt (much), and hopefully help (at least as bit).
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Post #444,870
10/6/24 9:16:19 AM
10/6/24 9:16:19 AM
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What was the original symptom/ issue that triggered the usage of blood thinners?
You mentioned the stroke. Were you on the blood thinner before the stroke for something else or was the stroke something that said you will be on some type of blood thinner forever?
If you don't mind the question.
I'm just playing my mother in my head and wondering what disease I'm dying of at the moment that is being unaddressed that I could possibly research and then trigger psychologically via the nocibo effect?
The reason for this particular path is because my foot went to s*** a week ago and I've been using the wheelie thing, but the initial symptom was some serious pounding in my foot that felt like it was from a centralized point and then radiated and my brain visualize the almost guaranteed blood vessel clots I've got spinning around because of my high cholesterol level combined with the fact that I refused statins many years ago because they caused me pain and made me stupid. So there's clots looking to land places right now.
Nah. EDS sucks, this is simply a cycle to get through with lots of drugs involved. Kick back and enjoy them. No pain right now. Not really a lot for the last couple of days. Now it's just the kickback and let it heal phase.
Is some type of blood thinner in my future based on my specific aggregation of factors? Just wondering.
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Post #444,880
10/6/24 7:23:46 PM
10/6/24 7:23:46 PM
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It was the stroke, hadn't had any meds like that before it. (Only for blood pressure & cholesterol.)
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Post #444,878
10/6/24 5:59:54 PM
10/6/24 5:59:54 PM
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Yes, pretty sure one is a subset of the other
It just reminded me of what a doc told me many years ago.
"You don't have an allergy, you have an environmental sensitivity."
OK, what's the difference?
"An allergy is when you have an elevated histamine response to an allergen. An environmental sensitivity is when you have an elevated histamine response to an environmental irritant."
So helpful.
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Post #444,879
10/6/24 6:16:53 PM
10/6/24 6:16:53 PM
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Heh.
My allergist expressed it as:
Irritant reaction vs Allergic reaction.
E.g. with enough pollen in the air, almost everyone will develop itchy, watery eyes. Just from the friction of all the junk in the air. People who are allergic will, in addition to that, have their bodies go into overdrive: "Danger! Danger! The air is trying to kill me! All hands on deck!!"
Cheers, Scott.
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Post #444,854
10/4/24 9:17:12 PM
10/4/24 9:17:12 PM
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Ah, Clopidogrel!
OK, that’s what they had me on for a year with the never-miss-a-single-day routine. I had more nosebleeds in the first month and for the remainder of the regimen than I’d had in all of the previous sixty-four years.
sanguinarily,
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