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Post #442,145 by Another Scott 10/7/22 12:17:19 AM 10/7/22 12:17:19 AM Reply	:-) When I got my Jetta wagon back from the shop after I was rear-ended on I-75 going 70 mph (several years ago)..., the owner of the shop had me look at the hatch and said he couldn't figure out why it didn't raise by itself on pushing the button on the fob. "It's never done that - it's manual," says I. :-) At least it didn't try to kill you! :-( (Supposedly there are instructions in the owner's manual about how to find the hidden manual interior door handle when the electric latches don't work.) But, yeah, driving or trying to operate an inscrutable car can be aggravating. Cheers, Scott.
Post #442,148 by boxley 10/7/22 9:36:16 AM 10/7/22 9:36:16 AM Reply	you need to take out the back seats per manual to get to that latch "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #442,171 by CRConrad 10/16/22 4:48:38 AM 10/16/22 4:48:38 AM Reply	Isn't it enough to just flip down the backrests? Also, how dumb does one have to be not to realise "Damn, there's nothing there! No handle at all, just a VW emblem!" Just... A... VW... Emblem. So YTF not try that then?!? Sorry, AFAICS this one is totally on you. -- Christian R. Conrad The Man Who Apparently Still Knows Fucking Everything Mail: Same username as at the top left of this post, at iki.fi
Post #442,172 by drook 10/16/22 8:26:38 AM 10/16/22 8:26:38 AM Reply	An emblem is not a handle I wouldn't assume that could swivel either. A few minutes feeling under the edge, like for a hood release ... a few minutes digging out the manual and trying to look it up (because somehow the manual never has what you're looking for in the index the way you expect) ... an aborted attempt to go through the trunk ... a few more minutes feeling around the edge of the trunk again thinking, "Handle ... handle... what fucking handle!?" Yeah, I could see spending a frustrating 20 minutes on that. -- Drew
Post #442,175 by Another Scott 10/16/22 11:12:40 AM 10/16/22 11:12:40 AM Reply	For those of us who get different cars maybe every 18-22 years... Having a non-distracted pre-delivery inspection and feature tutorial can be ~~very helpful~~ essential, but rare. Lots of things can change over the years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjnHJUhTIc8 - yeah, it's clever and makes sense. It took me a long time to figure out how to open the gas filler door on the Kia Soul I rented about 5 years ago. There are many potential ways to waste a lot of time on unfamiliar transportation devices! One of my favorite grade school teachers had a 1969 Pontiac Grand Prix. Huge land yacht! It had door handles with no obvious grips. How to open it? It turns out, one had to use one's thumb to push on the end part of the handle, then the longer lever part would pivot out and give one a place for fingers to grab and swing it out enough to disengage the door catch. I have no idea what one would do for a Tesla and similar things now that have completely flush door handles if the remote dies or there's something wrong with the electrical system and one needs to get inside... Cheers, Scott.
Post #442,177 by CRConrad 10/16/22 1:16:16 PM 10/16/22 1:16:16 PM Reply	I've bought a whopping two cars new (to me; used ones) in the last 11 years... ...and in my life. Both VW Group products, a 2009(?) SEAT Exeo and a 2014 VW Tiguan. (I've also owned, as I think I've mentioned here, an old Volvo for over half my life -- but I never bought that one, got it for Christmas when I was fifteen.) First thing that came to mind looking at that pic was "That looks like you push one end in so the other plops out". Like, how the fuck else would it work? -- Christian R. Conrad The Man Who Apparently Still Knows Fucking Everything Mail: Same username as at the top left of this post, at iki.fi

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