the house can vote to disenfrachise the electors as discussed in 2k

Post #436,375 by boxley 9/24/20 10:29:47 AM 9/24/20 10:29:47 AM Reply	the house can vote to disenfrachise the electors as discussed in 2k "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #436,376 by drook 9/24/20 10:46:23 AM 9/24/20 10:46:23 AM Reply	Details? -- Drew
Post #436,377 by boxley 9/24/20 11:06:55 AM 9/24/20 11:06:55 AM Reply	via objection https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/15 Upon such reading of any such certificate or paper, the President of the Senate shall call for objections, if any. Every objection shall be made in writing, and shall state clearly and concisely, and without argument, the ground thereof, and shall be signed by at least one Senator and one Member of the House of Representatives before the same shall be received. When all objections so made to any vote or paper from a State shall have been received and read, the Senate shall thereupon withdraw, and such objections shall be submitted to the Senate for its decision; and the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, in like manner, submit such objections to the House of Representatives for its decision; and no electoral vote or votes from any State which shall have been regularly given by electors whose appointment has been lawfully certified to according to section 6 of this title from which but one return has been received shall be rejected, but the two Houses concurrently may reject the vote or votes when they agree that such vote or votes have not been so regularly given by electors whose appointment has been so certified. so president Pelosi could be in office for a while :-) "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #436,378 by drook 9/24/20 11:55:40 AM 9/24/20 11:55:40 AM Reply	That only works if the Republicans deliberate They can just take every objection and overrule. It all comes down to this: But if the two Houses shall disagree in respect of the counting of such votes, then, and in that case, the votes of the electors whose appointment shall have been certified by the executive of the State, under the seal thereof, shall be counted. IOW no matter how much the Dems object, Repos just need to hold the line and it goes to the governor to decide who are the "real" electors. Done. -- Drew
Post #436,379 by boxley 9/24/20 2:05:02 PM 9/24/20 2:05:02 PM Reply	first the state courts would rule on the matter then the feds, then the objections in the house meanwhile president pelosi will be there for a while "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #436,380 by drook 9/24/20 2:41:06 PM 9/24/20 2:41:06 PM Reply	Explain your timeline Election is 11/3. Most of the results are in by 11/4. Looks like Biden will win. States that are currently Republican controlled, but vote blue, decide to appoint new Electors to the College. They can do this by the end of the day. I expect they've already got the paperwork done. Dems in the house could wait as long as possible and object to every single state as they read out their votes on 12/14. Republicans can be standing by to immediately receive the objection, say "No" and send it back. Longest I can see this lasting is the end of that week, 12/18. All this time Trump is still president. How do you see Dems stretching this process for another 4 1/2 weeks? When does Pelosi become President? -- Drew
Post #436,381 by boxley 9/24/20 2:51:03 PM 9/24/20 2:51:03 PM Reply	currently Republican controlled, but vote blue, decide to appoint new Electors Immediately court challenge is entered into state court and they will get an injunction until there are hearings. It will make its way up the chain to state supreme court then wend into federal court. That will take time "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #436,383 by drook 9/24/20 3:22:58 PM 9/24/20 3:22:58 PM Reply	I hope that's true Actually I think the best chance hangs on these two: Congress shall be in session on the sixth day of January succeeding every meeting of the electors. Congress can't meet to count the votes until after the electors have met. If one or more states are still in court disputing the slate of electors, the House can say that they haven't met. Two tellers shall be previously appointed on the part of the Senate and two on the part of the House of Representatives, to whom shall be handed, as they are opened by the President of the Senate, all the certificates and papers purporting to be certificates of the electoral votes ... and said tellers, having then read the same in the presence and hearing of the two Houses, shall make a list of the votes as they shall appear from the said certificates ... If the House doesn't appoint and present two "tellers" then the Senate can't do anything. Until someone files with the USSC that the House is refusing to perform their responsibility and the court orders the President of the Senate to read them out anyway. -- Drew
Post #436,385 by boxley 9/24/20 4:06:04 PM 9/24/20 4:06:04 PM Reply	gotta remember the rats will start abandoning USS Donny once the election looks to go south grifters gotta drift once the money train stumbles to a halt "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman

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