Absolutely disgusting.

Post #427,010 by mmoffitt 1/3/19 4:02:13 PM 1/3/19 4:02:13 PM Reply	Absolutely disgusting. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi evoked the memory of Ronald Reagan as she vowed to protect Dreamers — undocumented immigrants who were brought to the United States as children. "And when we're talking about the Dreamers, let us remember what President Reagan said in his last speech as president of the United States," she said. Pelosi then urged lawmakers to read the "beautiful speech" before quoting it. https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/new-congress-january-2019/h_4c2c58fc492827ab3c0eba7b4668f9fe So, we're down to this. Choose between raving lunatics and Reagan's Democratic Party. Swell. With leadership like this, I hope you're all looking forward to Trump's second term. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #427,011 by malraux 1/3/19 5:14:40 PM 1/3/19 5:14:40 PM Reply	Do you have an issue with what was said, or just who said it? Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #427,017 by mmoffitt 1/4/19 9:38:40 AM 1/4/19 9:38:40 AM Reply	Who said it. Can you imagine, say, for instance, Jeremy Corbyn kicking of a speech by quoting Margaret Thatcher and then encouraging everyone to "read her excellent speech"? I find her quoting him disgusting because IMO it hideously implies a yearn for "St. Ronnie, a wonderful human being and truly fine American." I remember Reagan's tenure. I remember the Contras, the Arms for Hostages, the slashing of the top income tax rate, the "Catsup and pickles are vegetables" policy for school lunches, the illegal mining of the Nicaraguan harbor, the Pentagon Republic of Honduras, the "I just signed legislation which outlaws Russia forever. The bombing begins in five minutes" joke, his being sworn into the Presidency of the world's leading creditor nation and turning into the world's leading debtor nation, and on and on. I don't, frankly, give a shit if the senile old git once managed to mumble a decent quip or two. No one should ever look past all the really horrible things that he led this nation to enough to quote him. He, like Trump, should never be normalized. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #427,012 by hnick 1/3/19 7:11:14 PM 1/3/19 7:11:14 PM Reply	Knee jerk much? You do realize that she was quoting (selectively) St. Ronnie to make her point that is diametrically opposed to the Rethuglicans stand. Think of it as superior snark. "Religion, n. A daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining to Ignorance the nature of the Unknowable." ~ AMBROSE BIERCE (1842-1914)
Post #427,013 by a6l6e6x 1/3/19 9:00:51 PM 1/3/19 9:00:51 PM Reply	"You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar." Alex "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." -- Isaac Asimov
Post #427,014 by drook 1/3/19 10:55:50 PM 1/3/19 10:55:50 PM Reply	Pedant alert: that's not actually true https://xkcd.com/357/ -- Drew
Post #427,015 by a6l6e6x 1/3/19 11:22:52 PM 1/3/19 11:22:52 PM Reply	It's just a proverb. :) Alex "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." -- Isaac Asimov
Post #427,020 by Another Scott 1/4/19 10:58:27 AM 1/4/19 10:58:27 AM Reply	There's the MM I remember! First day of a Democratic House, and the only elected institution with the capacity to stop the Teabaggers from destroying the national government, and Mike yells about how horrible the new Democratic Speaker is. Bravo!! ;-) Cheers, Scott.
Post #427,022 by mmoffitt 1/4/19 12:49:47 PM 1/4/19 12:49:47 PM Reply	Hey, now! I didn't say she was horrible. I said she did a horrible thing. That's different. ;0) bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #427,031 by crazy 1/4/19 5:24:25 PM 1/4/19 5:24:25 PM Reply	Bs. Didn't say the full term out of respect for headline rules Bullshit. Simple as that. Saint Ronnie was an asshole of course, you are right but so what? In this case she was trying to find the Republicans who had an allegiance to Saint Ronnie which in turn would allow them to support her in what she is doing. What the fuck is wrong with you?
Post #427,054 by mmoffitt 1/7/19 8:53:43 AM 1/7/19 8:53:43 AM Reply	Re: What's wrong with me? Too many folks around thinking like you do. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.

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