SSD and a clean install = fixed

Post #426,401 by pwhysall 11/20/18 2:18:34 AM 11/20/18 2:18:34 AM Reply	SSD and a clean install = fixed 16GB for regular office/desktop use is 100% unnecessary and, in the current RAM marketplace, expensive. 8GB is fine now and for the foreseeable future. 4GB will be entirely usable on an SSD-based system. Windows isn't the memory hog that MacOS is. Edge is a fine replacement for Chrome unless you're all invested in Chrome remembering your passwords etc. A Chromebook can work, but I'm here to tell you that the online versions of Office are not as nice as the desktop apps. Every modern operating system pages almost everything, almost all the time. (long and excellent post about paging in Windows: https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?p=21013929#p21013929 )
Post #426,406 by rcareaga 11/20/18 5:07:58 PM 11/20/18 5:07:58 PM Reply	Re: SSD and a clean install = fixed This seems like sound advice, and I will pass it on. Has RAM become latterly more costly? cordially,
Post #426,408 by static 11/20/18 9:01:31 PM 11/20/18 9:01:31 PM Reply	I'm going to second the 4Gb RAM thing. Both my current Surface Pro and the previous one I had came with 4Gb of RAM. Never noticed any issues with it because of that, although I was a little surprised when I found out. Next models up all had 8Gb. Microsoft knew what they were doing. Wade.
Post #426,411 by scoenye 11/21/18 7:49:59 AM 11/21/18 7:49:59 AM Reply	That was because of the Outlook webmail portal ;-) That thing will balloon to using over 1GB RAM resident (as will any other O365 web application). I don't want to know what Facebook runs away with. 4GB is definitely cutting it short these days, even for the use Rand described because of things like this that no one really pays attention to (or even suspects because "I only have the internet open")
Post #426,422 by static 11/22/18 12:56:47 AM 11/22/18 12:56:47 AM Reply	Yabut I don't use those. My email client is Opera Mail which is pretty frugal memory wise. I also use Vivaldi which has much better memory usage than Chrome. Wade.
Post #426,425 by scoenye 11/22/18 6:00:10 PM 11/22/18 6:00:10 PM Reply	We may not But most people who do not have a techie type available do. And they mostly use whatever came preinstalled. (My observation was on Chromiumm and Firefox. Both were about the same for the Outlook page. The O365 admin page is even worse at 1.5+GB but few would have to deal with that thing.)
Post #426,409 by Another Scott 11/20/18 9:55:57 PM 11/20/18 9:55:57 PM Reply	Prices have been falling since the bitminers stopped buying everything. Graphics cards are finally coming back to earth, too. About a month ago I bought a couple of mid 2012 MBPs and RAM and SSDs to upgrade them: 860 EVO 1TB SSD $163 ea Crucial 2x8GB 204 pin SODIMM $124 from Big River. Getting back to your original question and Peter's and Sven's comments, it does sound like the hard drive has issues and could use being replaced. Maybe chkdsk would fix it up, but unless it's filled with spyware and trojans and the like, then one has to assume that the hardware will just eat itself again reasonably soon. As you know, swapping out a HD for a SSD isn't hard, but the time involved reinstalling everything can make simply punting for a newer machine much more appealing. Good luck! Cheers, Scott.

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