I don't now and never will believe in spirits.

Post #423,208 by mmoffitt 4/6/18 10:08:45 AM 4/6/18 10:08:45 AM Reply	I don't now and never will believe in spirits. Except, of course, Glenfiddich. When I encounter something I don't understand in Nature, I strive to understand it by studying science. I've no need for magical beasts or spirits. But thank you anyway and I sincerely mean that. I'm sure your expressed hope that I find "a more rewarding personal spiritual life" was a genuine expression of hope that I would find life more satisfying. I'm reminded of a very close friend of mine who always took great exception to hearing "I'll pray for you" from a Christian. I tried and failed many times to convince him that he should let that slide. I quite understood why he was offended as "someone of faith" saying that to him was judging him very harshly. It is perhaps the ultimate slight for someone to say, "I'll pray for you" after you've informed them you are an atheist. But it harms no one and makes the person saying it feel better about themselves. He never accepted my position on that. But, I'm not offended in the least by your assertion that my life is lacking as compared to yours. Still, I won't be picking up any books about spirits, unless they concern single malts. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #423,211 by Andrew Grygus 4/6/18 11:57:43 AM 4/6/18 11:57:43 AM Reply	Ah, but we Pagans are just as much into single malts . . . . . though my favorite "paint stripper" (Peter W's description) is Laphroaig. Also caviar. California is now a leading producer of high quality caviar, as Russia fades from that scene. But don't you Communists have to avoid things like caviar because they are "bourgeois"? Of course, here in Los Angeles we have a late night coffee shop named "Bourgeois Pig" - just right for us.
Post #423,215 by mmoffitt 4/6/18 1:17:01 PM 4/6/18 1:17:01 PM Reply	I had caviar when I was a kid. I didn't like it. Amd yes, eating it is a display of bourgeois decadence. :0) bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #423,219 by Andrew Grygus 4/6/18 1:46:27 PM 4/6/18 1:46:27 PM Reply	Ah, but speaking of Bourgeois Decadence . . . . . aren't you Communists supposed to be drinking cheap vodka from a proletarian factory to give you courage to face defeat on the barricades? Doesn't this expensive, Single Malt, carefully produced by capitalist entrepreneurs, qualify as Bourgeois Decadence? Methinks your Communist idealism wavers a bit, perhaps quite a bit. And, childhood tasting experiences are completely invalid for adults, as taste changes quite radically. In some regions, coming to like bitter melon is considered evidence of entering into adulthood, as children can't stand it.
Post #423,222 by mmoffitt 4/6/18 2:05:50 PM 4/6/18 2:05:50 PM Reply	Have you been to Scotland? Decadent it ain't. ;0) Although I did get a still unopened jug of something called "Toffee Vodka" in Moffat. I haven't worked up the courage to actually try it yet. bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again.
Post #423,226 by Andrew Grygus 4/6/18 7:11:43 PM 4/6/18 7:11:43 PM Reply	Well, there are different kinds of decadent. On the Isle of Skye (at least a few years ago) the locals were very proud of the fact that there were more people on the island that had their licenses revoked for DUI than there were licensed drivers.
Post #423,225 by crazy 4/6/18 5:16:05 PM 4/6/18 5:16:05 PM Reply	Caviar comes in different types I've had caviar I hate and caviar I love. Try different ones.
Post #423,228 by Another Scott 4/6/18 9:03:24 PM 4/6/18 9:03:24 PM Reply	We always used fish eggs for bait... ... when we went fishing at a trout farm in the Georgia mountains when I was a kid. (I'm not sure why we always went there to fish - I guess my dad didn't like waiting. ;-) I never had much interest in trying caviar with that history. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Cheers, Scott.
Post #423,237 by Andrew Grygus 4/6/18 9:41:23 PM 4/6/18 9:41:23 PM Reply	There's a new book out on brain nutrition . . . . . and it says caviar is really top notch brain food. It says the biggest problem with brain nutrition is not enough plain water, which causes long term problems. It warns about purified and distilled water as insufficient. The author buys Poland Spring water by the case. I'm in good shape - I drink a huge amount of Jerry Water (Gerolsteiner), almost a case a week. Fortunately I buy it on sale, $0.99 or $0.89 per bottle +CRV.
Post #423,239 by boxley 4/6/18 11:18:02 PM 4/6/18 11:18:02 PM Reply	spring fed bottled water, right from a tap in brooklyn I like appolinaris if I can find it any more. Jerry Water is pretty good as well. "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #423,244 by Andrew Grygus 4/6/18 11:56:22 PM 4/6/18 11:57:10 PM Reply	Dup - several hours later Edited by Andrew Grygus April 6, 2018, 11:57:10 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #423,230 by boxley 4/6/18 9:17:11 PM 4/6/18 9:17:11 PM Reply	salmon caviar is my favorite https://www.google.com/search?q=salmon+caviar&client=firefox-b-1-ab&tbm=shop&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj3vcTB_qbaAhWMy4MKHf-TBEAQ_AUICigB&biw=1366&bih=615&dpr=0.9 "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman
Post #423,245 by Andrew Grygus 4/7/18 12:02:48 AM 4/7/18 12:02:48 AM Reply	Though I've read several articles on the subject . . . . . it's of interest to me, so I ordered the book (Lulu - 3 days to print before shipping). I'll let you know if anyone says belief in spirits is required, but I don't think anyone will. In general, we Pagans aren't "believers".

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