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New Pretty sure there's been some historical enhancement.
Heroes are always partly imaginary at this remove.
Regards,
-scott
Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
New Most of that enhancement has been flushed out at this point.
No serious student of the Bolshevik Revolution, for instance, would contend today that the Romanovs were murdered without Lenin's knowledge or consent (as was once claimed in the Soviet Union). And Khrushchev's denouncement of Stalin effectively (but not entirely - just as with Trump, there are some that will never see) ended his cult of personality.

There are many other myths that have arisen about the early leaders of the Communist movement (and not just Russians, Mao in China, Ho Chi Minh in Viet Nam, Fidel in Cuba, etc.). But I submit that most of those "enhancements" have been categorically refuted at this stage.

Not by the useful idiots, perhaps, but by the intelligentsia and professional revolutionaries. ;0)
bcnu,
Mikem

It's mourning in America again.
New The useful idiots are the ones who keep religions going...
Regards,
-scott
Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
New When someone has promised you a 'Certainty' of (..never say "die")
I fear that Mr. Boole's (..nor even Mr. Socrates'..) boffo logical, intellectual methods towards "logical argumentation", that which got us to
--> the Moon (and Vietnam, Iraq, Oxycontin, Facebook-purchase-by Russkies etc. ... but I digress)
can never compete with so ingrained an idea as "Certainty" cha. cha. ch-cha.

(Especially with Paul Joseph Göbbels II just now prepping for several new Patriotic Wars) for Whatever, such that: maybe lots of folks are yearning even more
for that coming [harps replace guitars] way Out of this chicken outfit.



We be so comic (when not in full-Vicious mode.)
Expand Edited by Ashton April 5, 2018, 09:51:38 PM EDT
     Some thoughts on Punish a Muslim Day as we approach Zombie Jesus Day. - (mmoffitt) - (36)
         There's a serious misconception in that statement. - (Andrew Grygus) - (35)
             I said "on their way to Hof". -NT - (mmoffitt) - (34)
                 Whatever the hell "Hof" is. -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - (33)
                     The Heathen Hof. - (mmoffitt) - (32)
                         OK, that's specific to Heathenism . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (31)
                             I don't think any of it is harmless. It's tribal. - (mmoffitt) - (29)
                                 Just so. - (Ashton)
                                 Tribalism? Not at all. - (Andrew Grygus) - (27)
                                     Communists have no use for religion. - (mmoffitt) - (26)
                                         Communism is a religion - (Andrew Grygus) - (25)
                                             Nonsense. It was/is a movement. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (24)
                                                 Sure, just like Christianity, Islam and other movements. - (Andrew Grygus) - (23)
                                                     The fact that you, as a capitalist, have anything to say about it is immaterial. ;0) - (mmoffitt) - (22)
                                                         Once again, you don't know what you're talking about. - (Andrew Grygus) - (21)
                                                             We didn't "compose" Lenin, Marx, Trotsky, Bukharin, Che, Fidel or anyone else. - (mmoffitt) - (20)
                                                                 Which means you can't adjust them . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (19)
                                                                     The point is they *were around*. Which means they weren't (and aren't) imaginary. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (18)
                                                                         Pretty sure there's been some historical enhancement. - (malraux) - (3)
                                                                             Most of that enhancement has been flushed out at this point. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                                                                 The useful idiots are the ones who keep religions going... -NT - (malraux) - (1)
                                                                                     When someone has promised you a 'Certainty' of (..never say "die") - (Ashton)
                                                                         Neither are the concepts we call "deities" imaginary. - (Andrew Grygus) - (13)
                                                                             I don't now and never will believe in spirits. - (mmoffitt) - (12)
                                                                                 Ah, but we Pagans are just as much into single malts . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (10)
                                                                                     I had caviar when I was a kid. I didn't like it. - (mmoffitt) - (9)
                                                                                         Ah, but speaking of Bourgeois Decadence . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                                                                                             Have you been to Scotland? Decadent it ain't. ;0) - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                                                                                 Well, there are different kinds of decadent. - (Andrew Grygus)
                                                                                         Caviar comes in different types - (crazy) - (4)
                                                                                             We always used fish eggs for bait... - (Another Scott)
                                                                                             There's a new book out on brain nutrition . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                                                                                                 spring fed bottled water, right from a tap in brooklyn - (boxley)
                                                                                             Dup - several hours later -NT - (Andrew Grygus)
                                                                                         salmon caviar is my favorite - (boxley)
                                                                                 Though I've read several articles on the subject . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                             Except in Europe - (scoenye)

This is a self-referential LRPDism.
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