Per Weather Underground as of 5 pm EST today.
It's now officially at Cat-4. :-/
Cuba, S. Florida etc. etc.
It's now officially at Cat-4. :-/
Cuba, S. Florida etc. etc.
Make Way for ... Irma [??]
Per Weather Underground as of 5 pm EST today. It's now officially at Cat-4. :-/ Cuba, S. Florida etc. etc. |
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I have a daughter in South Florida, so I'll be watching.
Hopefully it will veer off further South. Alex "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." -- Isaac Asimov |
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And head toward Texas or Mexico?
If it swings into the Gulf of Mexico, it could strengthen and be a real horror show. :0( bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again. |
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Um...
NHC Discussion #26 at 11 AM: Irma is an extremely impressive hurricane in both infrared and (Emphasis added.) A neat graphic of a couple of models. On shows the eye hitting Tampa, one shows it hitting Miami. It's going to be a mess, even without hitting the Gulf. :-( Cheers, Scott. |
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Thanks for reminding: NHC is about the Best we gots..
IF.. this becomes a Monster.. there's a small [+] side (one Hopes) re the Climate-Deniers' incipient Waterloo (dis-US is so screwed up that) this "maybe news"... IS a [+] ... :-/ |
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If I were a worse person ... and had a forum to pull this stunt ...
I'd have gone into Texas ahead of Harvey and tracked down Trump voters who were planning to evacuate. I'd ask if they believe in climate change, and when they say "No" ask them why not. Then ask them to square their answer with the fact that they're evacuating. After all, it's only climate scientists predicting rain, and they've got lots of different models that give lots of different predictions. They don't really "know" anything, do they? -- Drew |
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Well, as an Edjumacation(?) errand, one comes up with another association
It seems IME that, those who often employ a variety of "Logical Errors"--each having its own Name--are also amongthat group which is unaware that there IS such a List. This is not to Insist-that: were each of these to be exposed to The LIst? in an amiable bull-session (suitably laced with humorous examples) say, that none! would Grok to some degree: their thus predicament. Am unaware if this experiment has been funded. Yet. But I recommend the drill to any career-hungry socio-{something) Student, as well as to all those quite Certain that: all these dupes are Simply incorrigible Dullards. We gots to Start from Somewhere with that ... benefit of a doubt koan, Right? :-) |
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There once was a professor of philosophy ...
I can't find a reference to the story, so here's how I remember it. Two students were in the professor's apartment arguing that it was impossible to know anything with certainty. As the argument wore on, he invited them to join him at the cafe across the street for lunch. Upon reaching the street, he pushed them in front of an approaching carriage. When they both jumped back he asked them, "If you didn't know that carriage was approaching, why didn't you continue across the street to the cafe?" While it may be true in a philosophical sense that you don't "know" something, there's a point where it's close enough to live your life by. -- Drew |
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;^> ... True, dat.
umm.. 'sorta', because.. [this reply cancelled because: TMI] |
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NO! Climate change is a HOAX.
This is not climate change - this is the WRATH OF GOD - for voting for Trump! |
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Thanks.
I don't know this science. I see from your graphic that it's supposed to turn hard north as it just passes the tip of FL. I'm sure there's solid reasoning behind making that prediction and am in no way questioning it, but I am curious as to why it won't keep moving West as the eye moves between Cuba and FL? Do you know what, either in the model or in nature itself, makes that an unlikely track? bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again. |
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Hurricanes draw their energy from warm water
When they hit land, they'll tend to turn toward the land since the energy is coming in from the opposite side. -- Drew |
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There's supposed to be a high-pressure front moving in to keep it from moving farther west.
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Of course. Completely logical, I hadn't looked. Thanks again.
bcnu, Mikem It's mourning in America again. |
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Actually, Cuban mountains to siphon it's energy.
Alex "There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge." -- Isaac Asimov |
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wait until after it hits cuba to see where it may end up
according to the guys down the street where I work Irma will be going lengthwise down cuba on the florida straits side under current projections, that will also depends on how the mountain terrain of Puerto Rico and Haiti affect it which may be hit head on. After Cuba the models will be a lot firmer on direction, speed and intensity. If it gets into the gulf all bets are off as it could gain a tremendous amount of strength there. A cold front moving into the gulf states Wednesday night will also affect landfall. Went to the store today, no water to be found. Could thing I have a hose and a 50 gallon tank. Will be charging the Generator battery tomorrow just in case. "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman |
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WaPo has some beautifully Al Punte Irma data displays..
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please note it hasn't made the turn yet
while I have a lot of sympathy for floridians I hope the damm thing doesnt come up here. The front that has been holding it off is weakening "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman |
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Haven't seen any NHC note later than ~3pm EDT Sat. Where saw the "weakening" observation?
Noted earlier IIRC that.. yes a Px-drop AS Irma arrives (as clearly ITs LOW-px will add-in to the mix.) |
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made the turn, whew! as for wher saw the weakening observation
looking straight up at the sky, wind shift, wave patterns and humidity "Science is the belief in the ignorance of the experts" – Richard Feynman |
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The models keep show it slowly drifting west.
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