Post #4,116
8/7/01 8:03:42 PM
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Any legalismos re "emergency speed" at USSC?
Given the overweening Importance of Bizness and all, all those $ to be harvested reel soon next:
Could USSC actually (make themselves) rule ASAP, maybe say in a few days? ~
Nah.. sonny, you've had yer chance and thought that the way to use it was to be sullen, soggy, hard to light - and to throw tantrums. Also to lie a lot about how your software 'integrates' so inextricably - till someone else separated it for us. Tough shit kid. Let Appeals find a suitable penalty. (above decision in language your mental age group understands).
This - like that great ruling about a maritime-law case, posted __? with a Boffo judge a tellin it like it was, maybe with a touch o' WC Fields..
What are the chances (?)
Hopeful for some Courtfotainment in Sonoma, August is so ennui-provoking ...
Ashton the Just
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Post #4,117
8/7/01 8:10:26 PM
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Re: am willing to bet that USSC ...
won't take the appeal. I strongly suspect that waffle about MS having a good case is the same piffle we have been fed all along about how MS will get off eventually thru the DC App court & how MS was hard done by with Penfield Jackson and how .......................
Ad nauseum
Doug M
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Post #4,129
8/7/01 9:14:41 PM
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At this point, I don't know.
Remember, the DoJ wanted to push for the Supremes 'cause they felt the CoA would take MS's side anyway.
So, we have a MS friendly CoA still coming down hard on MS.
So MS wants to go to the USSC?
I'm overly biased, but if I were sitting on the USSC, I'd review the evidence and then ANIL THOSE FUCKERS!
Even the reporters understand that MS is trying to work the system.
The ONLY reason Microsoft wants this to get to the USSC is to DELAY any action.
We'll see if they still respect justice or law in the USSC.
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Post #4,131
8/7/01 9:24:18 PM
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*brrrr*
We'll see if they still respect justice or law in the USSC.
I'm almost afraid to see.
Imric's Tips for Living- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
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Post #4,171
8/8/01 9:34:19 AM
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Re: *brrrr*
It all depends on who wants to retire, and when <cynical sneer>
jb4
(Resistance is not futile...)
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Post #4,134
8/7/01 9:33:00 PM
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I agree. The justice system is working and there is...
no need to intervene. Judge Jackson break-up ruling was a way to get the arrogant lying MSFT bastards attention. He knew that when he made the ruling.
MSFT is finally getting a clue and is just trying to stall.
When the lower court judge is assigned, they'll seriously negotiate a remedy with DOJ and settle out of court with a "consent decree". I just hope it does serious damage to MSFT.
Alex
Only two things are certain: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not certain about the universe. -- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
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Post #4,181
8/8/01 10:01:00 AM
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Re: I agree. The justice system is working and there is...
When the lower court judge is assigned, they'll seriously negotiate a remedy with DOJ and settle out of court with a "consent decree". I just hope it does serious damage to MSFT. I'm not too sure I agree with this. The reason I say that is that I haven't seen much out of the states (not the DOJ) that says they're willing to settle. I think that, even though the DOJ appears to be leading the circus, it seems that the states (all 18 of 'em now) are in the driver's seat. The DOJ will follow the states' lead -- if they're not happy with a Consent Decree, then the DOJ won't necessarily settle.
-YendorMike
In order to understand recursion, one must understand recursion.
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Post #4,238
8/8/01 2:27:07 PM
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The first settlement meeting adjourned . . .
. . . without setting a date for another meeting.
From this I presume the DoJ insisted that structural remedies were still in play. Microsoft had already said they would not negotiate if structural remedies were to be considered. The states will not accept negotiations without structural remedies on the table. End of settlement story.
It's pretty clear this is going to be another Waco. The only way Justice will get a settlement is to go in with tanks, and Microsoft will elect self immolation in one form or another.
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Post #4,345
8/9/01 9:38:13 AM
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Can I bring the marshmallows?
jb4
(Resistance is not futile...)
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Post #4,292
8/8/01 5:51:48 PM
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You have a good point about the states.
It does comlicate the process.
But, at some point MSFT will realize that they are out of runway and begin to make concessions to avoid break-up. The states unanimity of position will at some point begin to crumble. No one will proclaim that a MSFT break-up is a goal in itself. Only the goal that MSFT end certain illegal monopolistic practices and begin other practices or actions, e.g. no bundling of products, no pre-announce of products, public disclosure of interfaces, etc.
After a majority of states gets it's pound of flesh, the rest will fall in place. Perpetual bickering would only help MSFT because they could continue with their behavior.
Alex
Only two things are certain: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not certain about the universe. -- Albert Einstein (1879-1955)
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