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Post #408,875 by malraux 3/21/16 12:50:55 PM 3/21/16 12:50:55 PM Reply	BS You and every other Hillary supporter will be voting for her precisely because you support Republican policies. You seriously think Clinton would be working with a Republican Congress to implement everything they want to do? Regards, -scott Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
Post #408,876 by boxley 3/21/16 1:26:03 PM 3/21/16 1:26:03 PM Reply	why not? Her husband certainly did. He ran and won on the "contract for america" always look out for number one and don't step in number two
Post #408,877 by Another Scott 3/21/16 2:33:08 PM 3/21/16 2:33:08 PM Reply	Eh? CfA was 1994. You know, the election where the House flipped to punish Bill?
Post #408,879 by rcareaga 3/21/16 3:27:57 PM 3/21/16 3:27:57 PM Reply	Re: Eh? CfA was 1994. Forget it. He's rolling.
Post #408,884 by boxley 3/21/16 4:13:06 PM 3/21/16 4:18:57 PM Reply	he ended welfare as we know it passed harsh sentences on criminals took credit for it plus others http://www.perkel.com/politics/clinton/repub.htm It's not just about talking the talk, but you have to walk the walk. And when you look at President Clinton's Record, you'll see a record that would make any Republican proud. If President Clinton is doing a good job and passing bills that Republicans support, then why shouldn't Republicans vote for him? What's wrong with voting for someone who's doing a good job? always look out for number one and don't step in number two Edited by boxley March 21, 2016, 04:18:57 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #408,880 by mmoffitt 3/21/16 3:35:51 PM 3/21/16 3:35:51 PM Reply	Not all, but many. Wars? Check. Continuance of the surveillance state? Yes. Continuing to enrich the MIC? Absolutely. No reversal of Wall Street power? Do I even have to answer? Continuing the polarization of wealth? You bet. Continued support for middle class slaughtering via trade deals? Absolutely. Continuance of tax breaks for billionaires? No question. Single Payer stays off the table? Obviously. Banksters continue to impoverish those seeking an education? Check. etc. sic nauseum.
Post #408,885 by Another Scott 3/21/16 4:16:26 PM 3/21/16 4:16:26 PM Reply	Let's play counter-factuals. Do you think Gore would have invaded Iraq? Do you think Gore would have squandered the surplus on tax cuts for the 1%? Do you think Gore would have allowed the huge housing bubble to develop? Do you think 9/11 and Katrina would have happened the way they did under Gore? There Is A Difference Between The Parties. Stop pretending there isn't. Even worse than that, stop pretending that Hillary is worse than Trump. We saw what happened when too many people in critical states bought into Nader's rants in 2000. He's cranking them up again, with an extra helping of sexism. Nader's an old crank now. We saw what happens when people listen to him. Don't be that guy. Cheers, Scott.
Post #408,886 by mmoffitt 3/21/16 5:08:56 PM 3/21/16 5:08:56 PM Reply	The Dumacratic Party, you mean. Sure Gore was to the right of a standard Democrat, but still Left of Hillary. There's no question we'd have been a lot better off with Gore than W. Just as there is no question we'd have been a lot better off with Brown than Clinton in 1992. The Democratic Party no longer represents Democratic policies. Hence, I don't feel I owe them anything.
Post #408,893 by Another Scott 3/21/16 6:32:43 PM 3/21/16 6:32:43 PM Reply	If they can't win the nomination, they can't be elected. That's the way it's always been. Yeah, Bobbie probably would have been a better president than Dick, also too. But that wasn't the choice. You get to choose between 2 people who have the only chances to sit in the White House. Wishing otherwise is fine and good, but you still only have 2 choices. Choosing against your (and your daughter's and the country's) best interests is not the way to change the system. The Democratic Party decides what Democratic Party policies are. If you don't like their policy position on X, Y, Z, then get involved in the party and try to change them. Only people who get involved get a say. Purity ponies who throw their vote away or sit the election out don't change party policies. Cheers, Scott.
Post #408,905 by mmoffitt 3/22/16 11:34:47 AM 3/22/16 11:34:47 AM Reply	FiFY. ~~The Democratic Party~~ Wall Street, Big Pharma and Big Insurance decides what Democratic Party policies are. If you don't like their policy position on X, Y, Z, then ~~get involved in the party~~ befriend a billionaire or become one yourself and ~~try to~~ dictate the changes to them. Only people who ~~get involved~~ make gigantic campaign donations get a say. ~~Purity ponies who throw their vote away or sit the election out don't change party policies.~~ Pragmatists who continue to vote for these clowns will never change party policies, let alone government policies.
Post #408,888 by boxley 3/21/16 6:21:11 PM 3/21/16 6:21:11 PM Reply	katrina would have hit mexico instead and the arabs would have missed the towers cause gore? hardly always look out for number one and don't step in number two
Post #408,890 by Another Scott 3/21/16 6:27:23 PM 3/21/16 6:27:23 PM Reply	Katrina was much, much more than a hurricane. We still don't know how many people died. The choice of President matters. In the fall there will be 2 choices (because only one or the other major party candidates will be elected). I know which one I'll be picking... Cheers, Scott.
Post #408,894 by boxley 3/21/16 6:32:49 PM 3/21/16 6:32:49 PM Reply	bernie I hope always look out for number one and don't step in number two
Post #408,892 by rcareaga 3/21/16 6:32:20 PM 3/21/16 6:32:20 PM Reply	the arabs would have missed the towers cause gore? har Gore might not have blown off the national security briefers the month before with "OK, you've covered your asses." It isn't necessary to be a 9/11 Truther to recognize "Bush kept us safe" as a particularly twisted—variously clinically delusional or sociopathically cynical—meme.

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