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New The phones don't brick
You just lose the data on the 10th incorrect attempt.

The whole thing of not being able to bypass the encryption was Apple's biggest marketing push for the latest incarnations. Even if Apple has emulators, the actual hardware is designed not to release its secrets.

I did misread the part covering the backups earlier. Only the user's keychain is protected by the hardware key. The Feds do seem to have the contents, except for the last 6 weeks. But... some smartypants at the FBI had the County reset the password to the iCloud account, so trying to get the phone to make an auto-backup is out.

Nice summary of the design:
http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=8756397&cid=51524693

[The separate Secure Enclave is not present on the 5C in question, but it has the precursor present on the main SoC processor.)
New Here's the (other) thing about this case
They know who did it.
They know it wasn't part of a larger plot.
They know who they were communicating with.
They know what websites they were on.

What are they allegedly looking for?

And by the way, we should probably stop calling them terrorists. They might have thought they had a cause, but so did the OKC bombers, and that's what we call them: "bombers".

Stop saying that unlocking this phone is about terrorism.
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Drew
New It is about the legal landgrab
Set the precedent that the All Writs Act can be used to make anyone do pretty much anything for any reason (this is a fishing expedition after all.) The Feds have been pushing its envelope for a while and have drawn some pretty stiff rebukes for the overreach. Terrierists!!!1!2 seems to have been the perfect cover to make this push stick.

(Ironically, wasn't abuse of Writs of Assistance one of the reasons behind the American Revolution?)
New Now that is a Bingo!
Alex

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

-- Isaac Asimov
     All you need to know about the Apple phone encryption case - (drook) - (14)
         gumment uber alles, you have no right to remain silent -NT - (boxley)
         Cringley's take... - (dmcarls) - (8)
             Interesting. Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott)
             That's some high-stakes poker, if true -NT - (drook)
             If so, maybe that autopsy should be reconsidered... - (scoenye) - (5)
                 Presumably when Apple was developing this hardware encryption... - (Another Scott) - (4)
                     The phones don't brick - (scoenye) - (3)
                         Here's the (other) thing about this case - (drook) - (2)
                             It is about the legal landgrab - (scoenye)
                             Now that is a Bingo! -NT - (a6l6e6x)
         Conspiracy theory ++ - (drook) - (3)
             I haven't read a lot about this... - (Another Scott) - (2)
                 Except - (scoenye) - (1)
                     They had the phone with them before and after the attack, before they were killed. - (Another Scott)

The OldManFu MoJo you got is impressive.
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