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Post #408,398
by Another Scott
2/26/16 8:21:17 PM
2/26/16 8:21:17 PM
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New I haven't read a lot about this...
The thing about having the spooks crack the phone (which they probably can do, given enough time and resources) is that any evidence they collect couldn't be used in court.

Having the FBI and/or Apple do it wouldn't raise issues about "sources and methods" which are the no-go line when it comes to national intelligence agencies. There would be ways for the FBI and/or Apple to collect the evidence in a way that could be used in court cases.

I think that's the bottom line here - they want evidence they can use to try to convict any other people who may have been involved and contacted after the last iCloud backup...

My $0.02.

Cheers,
Scott.
Post #408,399
by scoenye
2/26/16 8:42:59 PM
2/26/16 8:42:59 PM
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New Except
This is about his work phone. They both had personal phones which they destroyed before the attack. Chances that anything useful is on the work phone is rather slim. Plus, any people contacted would be available from the telco/ISP, so that can't be it.
Post #408,401
by Another Scott
2/26/16 8:58:12 PM
2/26/16 8:58:12 PM
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New They had the phone with them before and after the attack, before they were killed.
The Feb 16 court filing (p. 4 of the PDF file).

I'm not convinced this is just a fishing expedition or just a desire to set a precedent. Maybe so. We'll see.

Cheers,
Scott.
     All you need to know about the Apple phone encryption case - (drook) - (14) - Feb. 24, 2016, 12:00:06 AM EST
         gumment uber alles, you have no right to remain silent -NT - (boxley) - Feb. 24, 2016, 12:10:44 AM EST
         Cringley's take... - (dmcarls) - (8) - Feb. 25, 2016, 04:10:34 PM EST
             Interesting. Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott) - Feb. 25, 2016, 04:23:30 PM EST
             That's some high-stakes poker, if true -NT - (drook) - Feb. 25, 2016, 04:34:51 PM EST
             If so, maybe that autopsy should be reconsidered... - (scoenye) - (5) - Feb. 25, 2016, 07:44:58 PM EST
                 Presumably when Apple was developing this hardware encryption... - (Another Scott) - (4) - Feb. 25, 2016, 10:49:54 PM EST
                     The phones don't brick - (scoenye) - (3) - Feb. 26, 2016, 12:14:43 AM EST
                         Here's the (other) thing about this case - (drook) - (2) - Feb. 26, 2016, 07:56:37 AM EST
                             It is about the legal landgrab - (scoenye) - Feb. 26, 2016, 07:48:20 PM EST
                             Now that is a Bingo! -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Feb. 26, 2016, 11:07:46 PM EST
         Conspiracy theory ++ - (drook) - (3) - Feb. 26, 2016, 08:08:21 PM EST
             I haven't read a lot about this... - (Another Scott) - (2) - Feb. 26, 2016, 08:21:17 PM EST
                 Except - (scoenye) - (1) - Feb. 26, 2016, 08:42:59 PM EST
                     They had the phone with them before and after the attack, before they were killed. - (Another Scott) - Feb. 26, 2016, 08:58:12 PM EST

And it's like that.
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