I still think its possible to crack MS's stranglehold on the desktop (in business systems - the home market is a different story entirely). Windows is a good "toy" O/S for the gaming crowd. <duck - I know I'll get flamed for that> But seriously, most games are MS-DOS based and will likely continue to be so. However, is there really much of a compelling reason to use MS Office instead of StarOffice? or even KOffice? I don't think so.