Post #400,797
4/9/15 2:41:00 PM
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Toxic high school memory
At around this time 45 years ago, I was a high school senior slogging through my "science" requirement, having elected Physiology over Chemistry or Physics. The classroom was configured for all three subjects, and included a Van de Graaff generator at the front of the room. The instructor turned this on one day, and I picked up an industrial strength mercury (quicksilver) thermometer, over a foot long, and pointed this at the device. A visible and vigorous stream of electrons crackled between the instrument and the VdG sphere for a minute, and then the thermometer shattered, absolutely disintegrated: I was left with a mere glass stump in my hand, the rest of the tube having been reduced to shards and, alas, probably airborne vapor.
Today, this would have resulted in the classroom or even the building being cordoned off. Back in 1970, the teacher merely sighed and turned off the VdG.
hazardously,
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Post #400,806
4/9/15 4:22:36 PM
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Yep, a different time.
I went to a "technical high school" and in the mid-1950's had 3 years of Chemistry. In the organic chemistry lab the teacher pointed out among the available supplies was jar of picric acid. He said "It was enough to take out a quarter of the (7 story whole block) building, so be careful." Thanks for the warning! :) Picric acid has other uses than as an explosive.
Alex
"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
-- Isaac Asimov
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Post #400,811
4/9/15 10:59:02 PM
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A lot of things have changed.
We had a demonstration of exploding hydrogen (just 300cc) at one point. No ear protection offered to anyone.
I'm sure we did other dangerous things, but I can't remember any of them.
Wade.
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Post #400,812
4/9/15 11:11:31 PM
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I remember feuding with the new science teacher who was also the math teacher
discussed leaving all of the gas jets open after the last class while the teacher inevitably took a smoke break. Friend talked me out of it. I got even in a better way later.
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Post #400,814
4/10/15 4:06:52 AM
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Indeed, Indeed.
In high school chem lab, I instigated an event to hook the oxygen bottle to the gas line and blow oxygen back into the line until it got to the inevitable lit bunsen burner in one of the other labs.
Unfortunately, we had just begun the blow-back when my lookout warned us of the impending return of the instructor.
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Post #400,836
4/11/15 6:22:09 PM
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Demonstrating that both you and Box were/are dangerous
to most any living things, (even before discovering how much-More you could screw-up with just a missing [;] in a line of ascii) ... even without trying :-/
Mea culpa--in principle--but at least I don't blab to the now increasingly-daft world ... how to make Phlogiston. *(NI3 is just a toy; too unstable to make in large crystalline-assembiies ..and like that.) * Further, it's really the IN3 the deep-purple smudge at top: which is the real-primer for the sl. more stable main mass.
But Phlogiston is actually Baaa--aad.
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Post #400,813
4/10/15 4:01:45 AM
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Ah yes, I remember science summer school . . .
. . between junior high (now called "middle school") and high school.
My experiment was to generate hydrogen, and light a little flame at the end of the delivery tube.
So, I set up to go with aluminum foil and and sodium hydroxide.
"NO! NO!" said the instructor - "That's too dangerous".
Well, that's the method I always used at home, Reynalds Wrap and Draino, to send up explosive balloon with slow fuses (thick string impregnated with Potassium Nitrate) when the wind was blowing to carry them over Lockheed airport (later Burbank Airport (BUR). Even later Bob Hope Airport (but they're going to change the name back - seems since almost nobody living today remembers who Bob Hope was, the lack of name recognition is hurting the airport's profitability)).
It turns out, the approved method was to use mossy zinc and sulphuric acid.
So, being a budding mad scientist, I went and requisitioned mossy zinc and concentrated sulphuric acid - I would not settle for anything less. I didn't find out until years later that this reaction doesn' really work except with dilute sulphuric acid - who coulda known?
Anyway, my previous artistic life had a strong influence on my new mad scientist life. I didn't care for the shape of gas generating bottles, so I selected to use a more aesthetically pleasing Erlenmeyer flask, and rejected a regular funnel in favor or a more styly thistle tube.
So, I stood with the flask on the lab bench right in front of me, while my assigned assistant, Alan Stock, had the matches to light the flame at the delivery tube. He was ready to go, but I said, "No! no! this is going way to slow, there's probably still oxygen in the flask".
Finally, I got impatient and said "OK it's just got to be ready now". Perfect timing.
He lit it off. I stared at a completely clean lab bench. Then a rubber stopper with a broken thistle tube bounced off the surface where the flask had been.
Broken glass was swept up from every corner of lab. Alan got a scratch on the arm that had held the match. I was totally untouched, either by glass or by any drop of acid.
I think this is when I slowly began to suspect that I was aligned with stronger forces than Jesus.
Postlog:
May years later, while I was still a good Christian boy. I was in my mother's garage, working on my car. I needed to take apart a transmission synchromesh ring. I got a cardboard box, put the ring and my hands in it and closed the flaps over. Then I pushed the ring apart. Two or three of the synchromesh retainer balls managed to find their way out of that box, never to be found.
Years later, having returned from the far world, and having rejected Jesus and adopted Esoteric Paganism, I sat in the same place in that garage, holding a synchromesh ring in my hands - but now the garage was filled with a Model A Ford chassis and piles and boxes of my brother's disassembled engines and other junk.
This time I had no intention of disassembling the synchro ring, but I accidentally pushed it too hard and it sprung apart. I heard the little retainer balls bouncing off all kinds of stuff in this junked up garage.
Every ball returned to me. I was able to gather them all without leaving my sitting position. Now I knew for sure - I had set out on the right path.
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Post #400,815
4/10/15 6:45:49 AM
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:-)
I wasn't able to gain easy access to many chemicals as a kid, so that probably saved me. My older brother having a scare with Drano as an infant probably helped, too. My grad school adviser occasionally told stories of experiments with explosives as a kid in Australia. He said NI3 was great fun, but that was enough for him. Cheers, Scott.
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Post #400,816
4/10/15 8:59:36 AM
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for quick booms we were lazy
oxygen and acetylene equal amonts to fill up balloons. Place balloons in paper bag. Light bag and get the fek out of the way
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 59 years. meep
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Post #400,837
4/11/15 9:06:09 PM
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That trick made local news a number of years ago.
Well, the local paper. Trouble with doing it in a quiet suburb, I guess!
No, it wasn't me and I didn't witness the event! The perps got charged with Disrupting The Peace, which was why it was in the paper.
Wade.
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Post #400,823
4/10/15 5:31:51 PM
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My high school chem story...
The teacher would assign some of the better students (I was a weird kid; I got good grades in sciences, I was also a jock (a rather good wrestler), and I also ran with an outlaw motorcycle club. Hard to classify) demonstrations to set up and run for the class. My project was a chlorine generator to be run under the suction hood. I played with the reagents they gave me, and increased the amount of chemicals I was using until I got a gas clearly visible from across the room. No problem except I ran out of reagents. The father of a friend of mine was a chem professor at Case (local to me) and got me in to appropriate some replacement supplies. They were apparently more concentrated or more pure, because when I ran the demo, the huge clout escaped the hood and they evacuated the entire science wing of the school. Fortunately there were no injuries or repercussions.
"Religion, n. A daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining to Ignorance the nature of the Unknowable." ~ AMBROSE BIERCE (1842-1914)
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Post #400,824
4/10/15 6:04:13 PM
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AP biology
I wasn't in the class, but they had an issue with a cat they were going to dissect. The specimens came in 5-gallon buckets of formaldehyde. One of the cats had been packed improperly and had rotted in the bucket.
When they opened it, they had to evacuate the whole building.
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