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Horrible image.
Post #400,378
by
mmoffitt
3/25/15 9:08:56 AM
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Horrible image.
Second picture here:
http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/24/world/gallery/france-plane-crash/index.html
Airbus - again.
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (71)
- March 24, 2015, 10:02:48 AM EDT
It was an old plane -- 24 yo.
- (
a6l6e6x
)
- (3)
- March 24, 2015, 12:32:49 PM EDT
That's not old. My airplane is 55 years old!
-NT
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (2)
- March 24, 2015, 02:59:29 PM EDT
Yeah, but you don't go up to 40 K feet.
- (
a6l6e6x
)
- (1)
- March 24, 2015, 05:30:00 PM EDT
Well, if you're going to pick nits. ;0)
- (
mmoffitt
)
- March 25, 2015, 08:40:50 AM EDT
And Boeings never crash?
- (
pwhysall
)
- (36)
- March 24, 2015, 06:55:06 PM EDT
Sure, but for fatal crashes Airbus wins!
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (35)
- March 25, 2015, 08:33:31 AM EDT
Mein Gott
- (
malraux
)
- March 25, 2015, 09:47:06 AM EDT
What a massive margin of victory
- (
pwhysall
)
- (33)
- March 25, 2015, 09:52:19 AM EDT
Give Airbus a few more years, it'll be larger.
-NT
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (32)
- March 25, 2015, 10:26:55 AM EDT
Will it double?
- (
pwhysall
)
- (31)
- March 25, 2015, 10:36:59 AM EDT
Will it matter?
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (30)
- March 25, 2015, 10:46:59 AM EDT
Two. Millionths. Of. A. Percent.
- (
pwhysall
)
- (29)
- March 25, 2015, 10:53:23 AM EDT
before or after you mined a nostril?
-NT
- (
boxley
)
- (28)
- March 25, 2015, 01:43:09 PM EDT
FOUR millionths of a percent!
-NT
- (
pwhysall
)
- (27)
- March 25, 2015, 04:47:19 PM EDT
thats not much of a booger :-)
-NT
- (
boxley
)
- March 25, 2015, 09:33:52 PM EDT
Numbers-porn; you're usually not so easily deflected to the simplistic ploy.
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Ashton
)
- (25)
- March 26, 2015, 04:50:54 AM EDT
Hardware can't guarantee that one knows what the other is doing.
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Another Scott
)
- (14)
- March 26, 2015, 08:15:46 AM EDT
especially when one pilot is locked out the cockpit and the other has no response
-NT
- (
boxley
)
- March 26, 2015, 09:26:40 AM EDT
Coupled controls *do* help, though.
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (6)
- March 26, 2015, 11:21:06 AM EDT
[citation needed]
- (
pwhysall
)
- (5)
- March 26, 2015, 11:50:15 AM EDT
Read with comprehension much?
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (4)
- March 26, 2015, 01:01:47 PM EDT
Just answer the question.
- (
pwhysall
)
- (3)
- March 26, 2015, 01:21:03 PM EDT
Okay. I'll play.
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (2)
- March 26, 2015, 02:59:27 PM EDT
Assertion.
- (
pwhysall
)
- (1)
- March 26, 2015, 03:47:09 PM EDT
You brought up a question *I* did NOT make a comment about.
-NT
- (
mmoffitt
)
- March 26, 2015, 04:50:23 PM EDT
'The side stick vs yoke issue is red herring, IMO.' [Fail]
- (
Ashton
)
- (5)
- March 26, 2015, 03:34:05 PM EDT
Flying - no.
- (
Another Scott
)
- (4)
- March 26, 2015, 04:15:31 PM EDT
And doing that makes *all* the planes safer
-NT
- (
drook
)
- March 26, 2015, 04:39:05 PM EDT
Nobody's ever claimed that!
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (2)
- March 26, 2015, 05:02:01 PM EDT
You did read the rest of my post, right?
- (
Another Scott
)
- (1)
- March 26, 2015, 06:20:21 PM EDT
So coupling the controls was too expensive?
- (
mmoffitt
)
- March 27, 2015, 08:50:39 AM EDT
Appealing to facts not in evidence
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pwhysall
)
- (9)
- March 26, 2015, 09:48:23 AM EDT
You're in-lurve with modrin TLAs like "CRM"--as if That 'cooks the rice'
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Ashton
)
- (8)
- March 26, 2015, 03:12:43 PM EDT
Thought experiment
- (
drook
)
- (2)
- March 26, 2015, 03:22:40 PM EDT
Excellent point; shall need some pondering..
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Ashton
)
- (1)
- March 26, 2015, 03:45:21 PM EDT
Look at the latest research on self-driving cars
- (
drook
)
- March 26, 2015, 04:08:02 PM EDT
OH NOES A MODERN TLA! IT MUST BE SHIT AND RUBBISH
- (
pwhysall
)
- (3)
- March 26, 2015, 03:45:48 PM EDT
Yep, two Boeings wrecked by a European.
-NT
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (1)
- March 26, 2015, 05:07:06 PM EDT
And this is why you fail.
-NT
- (
pwhysall
)
- March 26, 2015, 06:43:39 PM EDT
(The CRM idea isn't bollocks, of course) But as a deflection of this issue:
- (
Ashton
)
- March 28, 2015, 08:05:05 AM EDT
Dupe
- (
pwhysall
)
- March 26, 2015, 03:47:53 PM EDT
Horrible image.
- (
mmoffitt
)
- March 25, 2015, 09:08:56 AM EDT
Pilot error indeed
- (
malraux
)
- (28)
- March 26, 2015, 10:15:16 AM EDT
Guess he couldn't live with the fact he wasn't flying a Boeing
-NT
- (
drook
)
- (26)
- March 26, 2015, 10:24:10 AM EDT
Errg.
- (
Another Scott
)
- (25)
- March 26, 2015, 10:33:43 AM EDT
an assumption is being made that he was unwilling to open he door, he may have been incapacitated
-NT
- (
boxley
)
- (14)
- March 26, 2015, 07:26:59 PM EDT
The autopilot was set to an altitude of 100ft while the pilot was out.
-NT
- (
malraux
)
- (1)
- March 26, 2015, 07:30:37 PM EDT
Re: The autopilot was set to an altitude of 100ft while the pilot was out.
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Nightowl
)
- March 26, 2015, 07:37:25 PM EDT
That's possible, but unlikely here imo.
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (11)
- March 27, 2015, 08:46:47 AM EDT
from the latest news it appears that it was deliberate
-NT
- (
boxley
)
- (10)
- March 27, 2015, 10:15:01 AM EDT
Re: from the latest news it appears that it was deliberate
- (
Nightowl
)
- (9)
- March 27, 2015, 01:39:32 PM EDT
I don't know how Europe does it.
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (8)
- March 27, 2015, 01:55:51 PM EDT
His response was definitely career ending.
-NT
- (
malraux
)
- (3)
- March 27, 2015, 02:10:32 PM EDT
And an affirmation of the physician's finding.
-NT
- (
mmoffitt
)
- March 27, 2015, 02:11:49 PM EDT
He wanted to go down in spectacular fashion and be remembered
- (
Nightowl
)
- March 28, 2015, 12:23:46 AM EDT
Ignore...dupe post. Sorry.
-NT
- (
Nightowl
)
- March 28, 2015, 12:25:31 AM EDT
Doesn't matter much
- (
scoenye
)
- (3)
- March 28, 2015, 11:03:38 AM EDT
Excellent points.
- (
Another Scott
)
- (1)
- March 28, 2015, 11:20:30 AM EDT
Share your unrealistic hopes.. because one. must.
- (
Ashton
)
- March 28, 2015, 05:19:54 PM EDT
Flying amortization -vs- Student Loans
- (
Ashton
)
- March 28, 2015, 05:53:13 PM EDT
Could be you win the thread
- (
rcareaga
)
- (9)
- March 30, 2015, 12:47:28 PM EDT
That and being deemed unfit to fly.
- (
Nightowl
)
- March 30, 2015, 07:57:01 PM EDT
There are more differences between how the Europeans do it and we than I realized.
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (7)
- March 31, 2015, 10:15:35 AM EDT
blame it on the nazis
- (
crazy
)
- (1)
- March 31, 2015, 03:37:12 PM EDT
That's a tough one
-NT
- (
drook
)
- March 31, 2015, 05:11:25 PM EDT
NYT sez that.. some slack is cut though, even here.
- (
Ashton
)
- March 31, 2015, 06:30:17 PM EDT
Zero tolerance is superficially appealing...
- (
pwhysall
)
- (3)
- April 1, 2015, 08:17:59 AM EDT
This.
- (
Another Scott
)
- (2)
- April 1, 2015, 08:27:40 AM EDT
Alternates for pilots?
- (
Ashton
)
- (1)
- April 1, 2015, 03:23:19 PM EDT
Well said. People do need alternatives rather than being kicked to the curb...
-NT
- (
Another Scott
)
- April 1, 2015, 05:59:57 PM EDT
Eerie earlier crash.
- (
Another Scott
)
- March 26, 2015, 02:02:55 PM EDT
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