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New My Sirota link was the basis of that article.
But the link is the full quote (not edited by the Obama fans at the Nation) and puts Obama's actual position in the proper light. Which conflicts substantially from what you're purporting is/was his position.

Face it, Scott. He's another defender of the oligarchy. Comcast CEO to head FCC, health insurance lobbyists in the so-called healthcare reform effort, etc. sic nauseum. The cost of medical care REMAINS the leading cause of personal bankruptcy in this country even after the PPACA. That is an abomination. No one should ever lose their home because a family member got sick. No federal legislation should have ever passed that mandated every citizen to participate (and add to the profits of) the industry responsible for that reality.

For five years I worked in the health insurance industry. It is corrupt to its core. Even if I give Obama credit for wanting to reform it (in spite of all evidence to the contrary, mind you), I *know* it cannot be reformed. It is as rotten as anything Goldman Sachs has ever come up with. If he were a Progressive and realized how corrupt Washington is, he'd know he had to appeal to the corporate masters who are not involved in the healthcare scam that is the US health system. And that would be *easy*. "Honda, Mercedes, BMW, Toyota. None of them have to pay a profit to other companies to provide health care to their workers. Why should GM, Chrysler, Ford and Tesla? It's unfair to our corporations who have to put the costs of paying off Anthem, Wellpoint, Humana and all the rest into the cost of producing their products while their competitors have no such costs." Sheesh. The stuff would almost write itself.

When Canada switched to Single Payer, the bill to do so was eight pages long. How much of the 2,000 pages of the PPACA do you think were special carveouts for the corporate masters?

As far as my comment being "delusional", I can only point out that the man actually said it. I'm being criticized for taking Obama at his word?
New It's amazing that we see things so differently. Oh well.
New Not that amazing
MM and I have a tendency to look at something that is bad and conclude that it is fucking atrocious. Your tendency is to say, well ick, but the other choice is probably worse.
The solution is going to be very messy. Given. I accept this; you apparently don't. I can't speak for MM.
Empires die. In one sense, we are living in end times, but not the way the religionists would have it. The country is moribund now; we will probably see it disintegrate. It will probably be, what's the word?, messy.
"Religion, n. A daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining to Ignorance the nature of the Unknowable."
~ AMBROSE BIERCE
(1842-1914)
     One for MM - Let's beat that dead horse one more time!! :-) - (Another Scott) - (26)
         Okay, I'll play. - (mmoffitt) - (25)
             Me too. - (Another Scott) - (24)
                 Total lack of leadership. - (mmoffitt) - (23)
                     Being able to count isn't lack of leadership. - (Another Scott) - (5)
                         They went to the people. That's what a real President is supposed to do. - (mmoffitt) - (4)
                             If Obama wanted that... - (Another Scott) - (3)
                                 My Sirota link was the basis of that article. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                     It's amazing that we see things so differently. Oh well. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                         Not that amazing - (hnick)
                     Re: Insurance premiums - (lincoln) - (16)
                         The amount of increase is highly dependent upon where you live. - (mmoffitt) - (15)
                             Re: The amount of increase is highly dependent upon where you live. - (Another Scott) - (14)
                                 FWIW. - (mmoffitt) - (13)
                                     I think that's the main reason why he lost. - (Another Scott) - (12)
                                         sure turn off every voice you mentioned - (boxley) - (1)
                                             "In the long run we're all dead." -NT - (Another Scott)
                                         I think that we are unable even to measure the degrees of our Brokenness, - (Ashton) - (9)
                                             Dunno. We have learned a little. - (Another Scott) - (8)
                                                 Re: Lester Maddox. Introduce yourself to Indiana's sitting governor. - (mmoffitt) - (7)
                                                     does he sell autographed axe handles? -NT - (boxley) - (6)
                                                         That would actually be better. - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                                                             Well, per NYT it seems the Repos want all-eggs-in-one coffin: soon. - (Ashton) - (4)
                                                                 And so, Ashton, from your posts these long years ... - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                                                     we need a snake plisken - (boxley)
                                                                     I remain steadfastly bi-polar on that huge Question.. - (Ashton)
                                                                 OTOH: Wasting their money may help the economy. - (Another Scott)

i only type in lowercase because i hate capitalism.
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