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New Re: I don't believe that
I agree that the battle is on the controlling the expense side because it's cutthroat on the revenue (i.e. product pricing) side. The big guys you mention do have the advantage of being able to squeeze their suppliers more than their smaller competitors. Indeed, companies like Home Depot, bypassed some distributors, who were once their suppliers, to deal directly with manufacturers in the Far East.

But, I hasten to point out, the companies you mention are not exactly manufacturers but retailers. Now, Dell is both, and it is doing all the things you say and has gained market share in a declining PC market. H-P/Compaq could, over time, adopt the same business model. Then, Dell would lose its edge and margins for all would drop. After all the consolidations, look at how few disk drive manufacturers there are compared to the past. They're losing money as well.
Alex

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing had happened." -- Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
New As a market matures . .
. . it trends to a state where there are a very few large "economy of scale" producers dominating the market, and a larger number of small botiques to serve those who need/want something the volume producers can't provide - and very, very little in between.

PC manufacturing is going this route rapidly, because under the Windows monopoly there is no significant innovation except in marketing - definitely a mature market.
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New Applies in manufacturing as well
I used retail because that is visible.

But both Kimberly Paper and Gillette stand as excellent examples of manufacturers in commodity businesses who had excellent earnings year after year.

The economic principles are the same. In commodity businesses, aim for low overhead and rapid turnaround.

Cheers,
Ben
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                                 As a market matures . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                                 Applies in manufacturing as well - (ben_tilly)
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