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Post #391,713 by crazy 7/8/14 11:42:05 PM 7/8/14 11:43:47 PM Reply	I DO know That the NSA hands illegally gathered info to the DEA which then constructs reasons to pull people over (parallel construction) as part of the war on drugs, your 1st example. Which in turn SHOULD make you rethink your position. But you won't. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140203/11143926078/parallel-construction-revealed-how-dea-is-trained-to-launder-classified-surveillance-info.shtml And it's a good thing this info came out, since I knew about it long before it was published, via a friend of a friend who did it for a living, which I could not state lest they come after me. Edited by crazy July 8, 2014, 11:43:47 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #391,722 by Ashton 7/9/14 2:49:47 AM Reply	Fascinating.. Really! A How-to Manual, redacted-or-not. No humorous wink-wink-nudge arabesque, but a sequential (straight-faced!) laying out of just How you.. [Ex:] [Remember, anyone, in the boffo Sir Ian Richardson trio? To Play the KIng ... House of Cards, when: the (woman driving a Saab) goes to pick up the original/sole-copy of a vastly incriminating document re the PM: and the 'Problem' is evident by a glance at the photo-on-top, held in a transparent envelope? She remarks on this fact; the supercilious custodian (think I recall him as the Heavy in The Raj?) replies.. One Averts One's Eyes. ... you'll recall this snippet: as she leaves with the file, her Saab explodes. [/] That's it exactly, and as already suggested n-times ago: for Spooks--in their chosen line of work and via its own Tradecraft-undercurrents of ethics-free pure pursuit of Dirt--the Enemy is indeed the Courts, the Citizens=='civilians'.. and anyone else seeking to artificially hamper The Hunt. Ever-for: its own sake. qed (for anyone who has ever become Identified with.. any Project whatsoever; thats 99% of the population I know!) And.. parallel construction is a stereotypical McGuffin for every such clandestine mind-set, yet. Just a new obfuscation. [oblig: cha. cha. cha.] ..for every employed euphemism Ugly/ugly--and familiar. Of course too, I could very well be mistaken: a million people might, next, come-Alive. (Believe that phenom is labeled "a Conscious(ness) Shock" in some quarters). Carrion. (Of course! I wish you Luck on the roulette-wheel of our massively-complexificated, jargon-bound Legal Monster.) Sometimes actual Reason does prevail and you've got enough chops.. not to piss-off any of their primadonnas of pettifoggery: they are soo Proud of their l33t skillz, ya know. (You do know.) ..Some pretty incisive quips in (the first 56) comments. Nary a bald-faced idiot-troll, that alone surprising. Anyone who's had direct experience of the sort of cop as makes it into our countless links of arrant-Cop-knavery, gets a free overview of just how the dis-USA's path to dissolution Works: er, with granularity. My next-door neighbor, way-back in the academic ghetto/Berkeley hills: seemed a bright young guy (late teens when I moved-in.) He decided to become a Cop. Met him only a few times over next couple years. That 'bright young kid' walked and talked like a (restrained-) Storm Trooper, all unawares as to his own changed mien :-/ Reminded of that Ace-bloviator, Gen. Douglas Mac Arthur (and his "old soldiers never die"--soon a pop-song--closure to his farewell address, along with his idea of his last-thoughts-as would be: ..and the Corps! ..and the Corps! ... (and a third one.) Cadets went Wild.. so do they all. As for, "U.S.A."? Gehabt! Kindern
Post #391,724 by Another Scott 7/9/14 8:25:51 AM Reply	Back to the original Reuters article. http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/08/05/us-dea-sod-idUSBRE97409R20130805 The two senior DEA officials, who spoke on behalf of the agency but only on condition of anonymity, said the process is kept secret to protect sources and investigative methods. "Parallel construction is a law enforcement technique we use every day," one official said. "It's decades old, a bedrock concept." A dozen current or former federal agents interviewed by Reuters confirmed they had used parallel construction during their careers. Most defended the practice; some said they understood why those outside law enforcement might be concerned. "It's just like laundering money - you work it backwards to make it clean," said Finn Selander, a DEA agent from 1991 to 2008 and now a member of a group called Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, which advocates legalizing and regulating narcotics. Some defense lawyers and former prosecutors said that using "parallel construction" may be legal to establish probable cause for an arrest. But they said employing the practice as a means of disguising how an investigation began may violate pretrial discovery rules by burying evidence that could prove useful to criminal defendants. [...] The SOD's role providing information to agents isn't itself a secret. It is briefly mentioned by the DEA in budget documents, albeit without any reference to how that information is used or represented when cases go to court. The DEA has long publicly touted the SOD's role in multi-jurisdictional and international investigations, connecting agents in separate cities who may be unwittingly investigating the same target and making sure undercover agents don't accidentally try to arrest each other. SOD'S BIG SUCCESSES The unit also played a major role in a 2008 DEA sting in Thailand against Russian arms dealer Viktor Bout; he was sentenced in 2011 to 25 years in prison on charges of conspiring to sell weapons to the Colombian rebel group FARC. The SOD also recently coordinated Project Synergy, a crackdown against manufacturers, wholesalers and retailers of synthetic designer drugs that spanned 35 states and resulted in 227 arrests. Since its inception, the SOD's mandate has expanded to include narco-terrorism, organized crime and gangs. A DEA spokesman declined to comment on the unit's annual budget. A recent LinkedIn posting on the personal page of a senior SOD official estimated it to be $125 million. [...] Wiretap tips forwarded by the SOD usually come from foreign governments, U.S. intelligence agencies or court-authorized domestic phone recordings. Because warrantless eavesdropping on Americans is illegal, tips from intelligence agencies are generally not forwarded to the SOD until a caller's citizenship can be verified, according to one senior law enforcement official and one former U.S. military intelligence analyst. "They do a pretty good job of screening, but it can be a struggle to know for sure whether the person on a wiretap is American," the senior law enforcement official said. Tips from domestic wiretaps typically occur when agents use information gleaned from a court-ordered wiretap in one case to start a second investigation. FWIW. Cheers, Scott.
Post #391,729 by crazy 7/9/14 10:24:16 AM Reply	As usual, you swallow the party line And I can't post any more on the subject
Post #391,732 by Another Scott 7/9/14 10:28:46 AM Reply	No need. I understand that power can and sometimes will be abused. That's why good people need to be in these positions, and clear rules need to be in place. The power is not going to go away, no matter how much we wish it would. We need to make sure it's harnessed correctly. Hang in there. Cheers, Scott.

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