Women speak out against sexism in tech

Post #389,814 by Ashton 5/24/14 5:46:10 PM Reply	Women speak out against sexism in tech http://www.salon.com...t_sexism_in_tech/ Read it and ..weep? ...guffaw!? ponder. ÂWe are tired of pretending this stuff doesnÂt happenÂ: Women speak out against sexism in tech Women wrote an open letter, on Model View Culture, about the sexism they've experienced in the tech world SARAH GRAY The tech industry can be a hostile arena for the women who work in it. Not only are there too few women in the industry and far too few at the top of the industry, but those who follow their passions into tech are faced with rampant sexism. Just in the last few months, the terrible environment at GitHub was revealed, CodeBabes was introduced and former start-up CEO Gurbaksh Chahal was charged with allegedly kicking his former girlfriend over 100 times in 30 minutes. And just yesterday, a tech writer at Business Insider tweeted this disgusting bit of commentary on a husband murdering his wife: Man killed wife for making vegetarian dinner http://t.co/L4n0ul0xgM Bravo, sir #TheFightbackStartsHere Â Milo Yiannopoulos (@Nero) May 22, 2014 These examples are just a few of the many that spurred prominent women in tech to publish an open letter on the industry blog, Model View Culture. The letter is titled ÂAn Open Letter on Feminism in TechÂ and was signed by Divya Manian, from Adobe, Sabrina Majeed, an iOS designer at Buzzfeed, Angelina Fabbro, a developer at Mozilla, Sara Chipps, the CTO of Flatiron School and more. In it, the women discuss the sexism theyÂve faced and both offer and encourage other women and allies to take a stand with a series of resources. The entire letter is very much worth a read. Here is a short clip below: [. . .] Unsurprising, given the Murican aberrant-psych Norm, but still :-/ :-/ Y. P. {F.} B. Get Out!! Screw the insanely-grrreat Perl-script-18-hour cryptanalysis, for.. Fresh air? somewhere less psyche-destroying??
Post #389,817 by Another Scott 5/24/14 7:04:47 PM Reply	It's a great letter. But the title bothers me. It's not really "About Feminism" as their live version is called - http://aboutfeminism.me It's a letter about harassment and denigration of women in tech. (Of course, it's not just computer tech - imagine being a woman Ph.D. in Physics or Engineering.... :-( It's a great letter. I wish the title were different. The existing one doesn't really capture the essence, and it invites preconceived notions. I hope it leads to substantial changes. Thanks. Cheers, Scott.
Post #389,827 by Ashton 5/25/14 5:30:49 AM Reply	I find this one well-punctuated, so as to be unmistakably clear: http://modelviewcult...-feminism-in-tech (as well as its links.) While I have only hearsay-info, compared with the majority here, Being nice and talking politely about injustice does not compel the group in power to do anything that unseats their power. We will call out injustice when we see it. We will speak up when we get private abusive emails from prominent males in tech (who sound sincere online to help the cause of women in tech), indulging in ÂharmlessÂ sexist jokes. We will speak up when people on forums or GitHub make remarks that prevent us from forwarding the conversation just because we happen to identify as women. While not all of us might use the type of language and rhetoric that is often maligned as Âtoo angryÂ in our community, we are just as angry. There are people in our community who are speaking hard truths, and we need to listen - that means you too. There is work to be done. I have to conclude that, one takes such an argument to be both pellucid and 'informed' or one has to conjure up some 'deranged speaker' (in lieu of any believable rebuttal.) From afar then, the experiences claimed by these signatories Are horrific--but much worse than That: these tales are utterly-consistent with those of us who (already) observe the rarity of adult-minds (?) as ever result from: carrying-over male teen-age narcissism on into a never-maturing 'adulthood'. What could be more proto-Murican than this phenomenon? For many, Tits-n'Ass is ALL-that's-seen when a female/Any female.. enters a room! Period. Wanna deny that? I'm just not sure what aspect of their 'wording' un-tickles your fancy (?) ie Some days I truly wonder if.. the damnable FAILS of this kultur have any significant-POSITIVE counterbalances whatsoever [??] Even the core-idea of 'Progress' has become so enmeshed with Mine's-Bigger and I've-got-Mine/Fuck You (called, 'Success') --that it is daily harder to discover any chance that 'Wisdom' shall ever-again become prized, be worked-for and occasionally.. be Found in some few. (Maybe The Buddha was the First and Last ... ever to achieve manifest-freedom from daily illusions. So we're dead but-all-unawares? and ecce homo! has now become a burlesque of, merely, all that Potential-energy--wasted as surely as the brakes on a car transform K.E. into heat/entropy/ aka pissant pursuits. ie. I can indeed feel-the-pain of brilliant-females amidst a morass of perpetually-juvenile males (and I've known a few such, up-front-and-Personal, as a sanity-check.) [And Yesss: it IS the poison of latent-Puritanism, that which has made caricatures of the 'masculine' and 'feminine' Concepts-themselves (!) near 500 years later.] ..But I'm always open to any soupçon of overlooked 'hopes' *that our species possesses both the aim and the Will to actually/next Grow-Up. Got any evidence?* Do You.. expect, "in-Time" some 'epiphany' ??**
Post #389,842 by boxley 5/25/14 7:55:51 PM Reply	one comment nails it Female tech workers weren't hired in order to give their socially awkward male counterparts someone to sleep with. They were hired to work. ed zachary Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 58 years. meep
Post #389,884 by Ashton 5/26/14 6:36:18 PM Reply	Second that nailing.
Post #389,962 by dmcarls 5/27/14 1:05:25 PM Reply	Ah, yes >>> Man killed wife for making vegetarian dinner From Digby a few days ago: ‘”Why do men feel threatened by women?” I asked a male friend of mine. So this male friend of mine, who does by the way exist, conveniently entered into the following dialogue. “I mean,” I said, “men are bigger, most of the time, they can run faster, strangle better, and they have on the average a lot more money and power.” “They’re afraid women will laugh at them,” he said. “Undercut their world view.” Then I asked some women students in a quickie poetry seminar I was giving, “Why do women feel threatened by men?” “They’re afraid of being killed,” they said.’ Margaret Atwood, Writing the Male Character (1982)
Post #389,966 by Ashton 5/27/14 3:58:22 PM Reply	Undercutting World Views R'Us LLC ... get in on the IPO. Sententious juxtaposition there.. about as Al Punte as I've seen. Men (too many of them, anyway) are just that reptile-brain driven. Women (more and more of them) are just that sane, thus realistic. Let's get more of the latter into law-making cabals, shall we? (And more of the former into appropriately-safe padded cells.) When I am elected interim Emergency Clean-up Dictator.. ... (Our LLC specializes in clean-ups from vulture-capitalism infestation.) All our profits go to Arm Bears (and other biped-endangered species.)
Post #404,655 by dmcarls 9/15/15 9:38:23 PM Reply	Backup data http://www.vpc.org/revealing-the-impacts-of-gun-violence/female-homicide-victimization-by-males/
Post #404,789 by Ashton 9/22/15 4:08:27 PM Reply	Welcome back.. Missed this timely update via its residing on "second page" ..when you don't Mark Read very often. Duh. (Also had missed your much earlier post: suggesting I might have been serious [!!] in a totally un-Serious quip many months back: herewith my conformation that: you couldn't possibly be amidst the Bad Guys. Or, we're all Doomed.) And yes, the stats confirm that the females of 2015 do not/need not exaggerate the probabilities they sense, of mindless-violence from ... entirely too-High a % of your ordinary US-male specimen, randomly encountered. (I was no Wunderkind, yet noted pretty early the brawn-over-brains roles adopted by soo Many of my (not-really) cohorts of yout.) And, ever since: have felt (before intellectualizing much at all) that we were a Nation of defective-males and bloody-Proud Of It (an attitude even worse than the disease?) Carrion: what many women seem to be, to an unacceptable % of U.S. males. Is there Nothing which we still do er, 'Righteously'? Is it all bizness rationalization of terminal greed, inside every Armani suit?

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