$20k is a few days, or less, in an ICU.

Post #389,008 by Another Scott 4/29/14 5:48:31 AM Reply	$20k is a few days, or less, in an ICU. Anybody can have a stretch of bad luck and need expensive care. Everyone needs decent heath insurance. It's a crime that too many noisemakers have so poisoned civic life that millions of people who can directly benefit from the ACA aren't yet doing so. Luck to us all!! Cheers, Scott.
Post #389,011 by mmoffitt 4/29/14 8:29:06 AM Reply	Here's a crime. ÂIn 2013 over 20% of American adults are struggling to pay their medical bills, and three in five bankruptcies will be due to medical bills. While we are quick to blame debt on poor savings and bad spending habits, our study emphasizes the burden of health costs causing widespread indebtedness. Medical bills can completely overwhelm a family when illness strikes,Â says Christina LaMontagne, VP of Health at NerdWallet. ÂFurthermore, 25 million people hesitate to take their medications in order to control their medical costs. Unfortunately this can lead to even worse financial outcomes as preventative treatments are not rendered and patients end up using expensive ambulance and ER care as their health worsens.Â Finally, many question whether President ObamaÂs universal health insurance mandate will protect Americans from problems with medical bills. ÂInsurance is no silver bullet,Â says LaMontagne. ÂEven with insurance coverage, we expect 10 million Americans will face bills they are unable to pay.Â http://www.nerdwalle...dical-bankruptcy/ Good thing the President blocked all that Single Payer chatter.
Post #389,019 by jake123 4/29/14 9:00:28 PM Reply	It's still a huge improvement over what was. Art of the possible and all that.
Post #389,034 by hnick 4/30/14 5:53:31 AM Reply	Right! Absolutely! Relish any crumb they offer! Very little is possible if you give it away before you start. The travesty generated by faux Dems like Clinton and Obama are going to haunt liberals for another thirty years. "Religion, n. A daughter of Hope and Fear, explaining to Ignorance the nature of the Unknowable." ~ AMBROSE BIERCE (1842-1914)
Post #389,040 by mmoffitt 4/30/14 9:08:43 AM Reply	Flashback: 2007. I was ranting on this very board about the enormity of the problem of Obama being allowed to pass as a Progressive, much to the consternation of many here. I voted for Ralph (although it didn't count), also to the consternation of many here. It is game over in American politics. When even intelligent, thoughtful people (you know who you are) can stand on their heads defending the "liberal chops" of YAN Wall Street Stooge like the sitting President, it is well past time to get off the boat.
Post #389,041 by jake123 4/30/14 9:32:10 AM Reply	Elect better reps.
Post #389,044 by mmoffitt 4/30/14 11:39:48 AM Reply	And how, exactly, in the light of Citizen's United and ... the general idiocy of the population do you suppose we manage to do that?
Post #389,136 by jake123 5/3/14 4:19:18 PM Reply	Getting out and working for it. Government you deserve, and all that. There are all kinds of people peddling the futility argument. Mostly those are the people benefiting from the status quo, and their useful fools. You're not going to manage it by saying it can't be managed.

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