Context please

Post #387,711 by pwhysall 3/19/14 2:47:27 AM Reply	Context please Who's this Kristol chap?
Post #387,717 by Another Scott 3/19/14 8:27:27 AM 3/19/14 10:30:14 AM Reply	Re: Context please William Kristol - One of W's cheerleaders. http://www.weeklysta...cuse_784895.html# HTH. [tyop] Cheers, Scott. Edited by Another Scott March 19, 2014, 10:30:14 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #387,718 by pwhysall 3/19/14 8:40:47 AM Reply	I see An armchair soldier who's never had anything more threatening than a super-soaker pointed at him, giving it Bertie Big Potatoes about how other people should go and get shot at. What a dickbag.
Post #387,725 by drook 3/19/14 11:26:27 AM Reply	His irony meter's busted, while mine's all a-klaxon Every time I hear this, I wonder: Did you serve? Did you volunteer to fight oppression in foreign lands? Did your son or brother or husband? If so, then I understand and sympathize with your complaint ... unlike most of those who utter this shopworn phrase. To which little Billy says, "Hear hear!" Yes, William, because your extensive military career gives you common cause with Ms. Szrom. What's that you say? You never served? Well then ... do fuck right off now. -- Drew
Post #387,719 by rcareaga 3/19/14 9:56:55 AM Reply	See also his wikipedia entry Son of Irving Kristol, an early neocon. Little Billy is the dumbest man ever to have a regular gig (since rescinded) at the New York Times, which is saying something, since the Newspaper of Record also employs David Brooks, Ross Douthat and Tom Friedman. I have long cherished the following anecdote: ÂI remember back in the late 1990s, when Ira Katznelson, an eminent political scientist at Columbia, came to deliver a guest lecture. Prof. Katznelson described a lunch he had with Irving Kristol during the first Bush administration. ÂThe talk turned to William Kristol, then Dan QuayleÂs chief of staff, and how he got his start in politics. Irving recalled how he talked to his friend Harvey Mansfield at Harvard, who secured William a place there as both an undergrad and graduate student; how he talked to Pat Moynihan, then NixonÂs domestic policy adviser, and got William an internship at the White House; how he talked to friends at the RNC [Republican National Committee] and secured a job for William after he got his Harvard Ph.D.; and how he arranged with still more friends for William to teach at Penn and the Kennedy School of Government. ÂWith that, Prof. Katznelson recalled, he then asked Irving what he thought of affirmative action. ÂI oppose it,Â Irving replied. ÂIt subverts meritocracy.Â Â cordially,
Post #387,808 by jake123 3/22/14 10:16:10 AM Reply	Got link for this? I would love to distribute this more widely.
Post #387,821 by Another Scott 3/22/14 1:20:34 PM Reply	Not Rand, but here's what I've found. This seems to be one of the earliest ones - http://www.lawyersgu...-kristol-meltdown . The cite for it - http://www.haloscan....991906208/#655097 - gives a 404, but archive.org may have it. HTH! Cheers, Scott.
Post #387,829 by jake123 3/22/14 5:30:23 PM Reply	Not really a 404 the original comment was on haloscan, as was the original article; they've been migrating them into the current site for quite a while. You can find it further down if you read the comments.
Post #387,837 by jake123 3/22/14 11:13:07 PM Reply	BTW if you go further down the thread, you'll find the subject of that post (Ira Katznelson) weighs in with his actual recollections of the conversation.
Post #387,840 by Another Scott 3/22/14 11:41:17 PM Reply	Good catch. Thanks.
Post #387,830 by Ashton 3/22/14 5:59:18 PM Reply	From first link, think I've got it.. ~~Conservatives~~ Reactionaries have been on a long diet with increasing dosages of Aresenic. Were that diet suddenly cut/Kristol demoted: withdrawal would kill. (Alas, it's 5+ years later ... so I guess they're in stasis until the Death of All Language.) (So sorry that T. Pratchett didn't get the (promising?) new anti-Alzheimer protein. Bet he could run with another 'Death-of' within the Morpork pantheon.) http://www.dailykos....er-s-and-dementia
Post #387,738 by Ashton 3/19/14 5:47:26 PM Reply	SImplest, perhaps-- He is the zombie-incarnation of My Gramma, complete with the identical '50s hack-phrases of the [Look up, 'John Birch Society'.] He encompasses the virtual-liff posture of one marlowe but sans marlowe's continuous bugaboo: when he (per his own words) had the shit beaten out of him, apparently by some local Irish 'goons' (or maybe just non-goons tired of his verbal diarrhea?) 'True' can be applied in Kristol's case only to the phrase, True-sociopath. (I claim only that, I KNOW this mofo.. cold.)

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