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Post #382,526 by pwhysall 10/22/13 12:53:37 PM 10/22/13 12:54:01 PM Reply	What is this thing you earth people call "job expenses that your job doesn't cover"? If I spend money, I claim it back. There's no tax implication. Every mile I drive for work is accounted and claimed for. If I were being taxed on BIKs, such as fuel, that would be broken out. Edited by pwhysall Oct. 22, 2013, 12:54:01 PM EDT What is this thing you earth people call "job expenses that your job doesn't cover"? If I spend money, I claim it back. There's no tax implication. If I were being taxed on BIKs, such as fuel, that would be broken out. Collapse All History
Post #382,527 by mmoffitt 10/22/13 1:05:49 PM Reply	Does 30% on 62K sound about right? I used this http://www.listentotaxman.com/index.php and have no idea if that's right. I didn't plug anything into "pension" contribution, nor "allowances/deductions" nor "childcare vouchers". Just clicked "married" and put in 62K pounds (approx $100,000 US) for an example.
Post #382,528 by pwhysall 10/22/13 1:21:20 PM Reply	Wouldn't be a million miles out. Probably a little bit higher. The higher tax rate (40%) kicks in at ~£35K, so: £0-10K: untaxed £10-35K: 20% £35K-whogivesacrap: 40%
Post #382,529 by mmoffitt 10/22/13 1:27:08 PM Reply	Interesting. If you're at or near US household median income (51K USD/year), you'd take home more if you had your tax code and national health insurance than you would here (assuming you purchase a family health insurance plan through your employer). With the added bonus of not needing to file for bankruptcy if you or a family member gets sick. I've always suspected that would be the case, but now I know it. Thanks!

American Healthcare - It is to laugh - (pwhysall) - (61) - Oct. 22, 2013, 01:33:45 AM EDT

Yeah. They should get off our lawn. -NT - (CRConrad) - Oct. 22, 2013, 02:59:19 AM EDT

Yeah, we're stupid. - (mmoffitt) - (19) - Oct. 22, 2013, 08:31:54 AM EDT

TWICE! -NT - (folkert) - Oct. 22, 2013, 08:35:34 AM EDT

Whatever gets you through the paperwork - (pwhysall) - (17) - Oct. 22, 2013, 10:05:01 AM EDT

so how do you know what the government is taking? - (boxley) - (9) - Oct. 22, 2013, 10:26:29 AM EDT

It's on my payslip every month. - (pwhysall) - (8) - Oct. 22, 2013, 10:37:00 AM EDT

Remember... - (folkert) - (2) - Oct. 22, 2013, 10:41:13 AM EDT

Damn Tea Party - (danreck) - (1) - Oct. 24, 2013, 05:07:10 PM EDT

Bitter Tea... more like. -NT - (folkert) - Oct. 24, 2013, 09:42:21 PM EDT

do they break it down at all or is it just a single sum? - (boxley) - (4) - Oct. 22, 2013, 12:25:10 PM EDT

What is this thing you earth people call - (pwhysall) - (3) - Oct. 22, 2013, 12:54:01 PM EDT

Does 30% on 62K sound about right? - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Oct. 22, 2013, 01:05:49 PM EDT

Wouldn't be a million miles out. - (pwhysall) - (1) - Oct. 22, 2013, 01:21:20 PM EDT

Interesting. - (mmoffitt) - Oct. 22, 2013, 01:27:08 PM EDT

You also forgot to mention your Queen. - (mmoffitt) - (6) - Oct. 22, 2013, 10:42:25 AM EDT

Nuh-uh. - (pwhysall) - (5) - Oct. 22, 2013, 10:55:54 AM EDT

But not greatly simplifying things. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - Oct. 22, 2013, 10:57:02 AM EDT

We've fought lots of wars. Which one are you referring to? -NT - (drook) - (3) - Oct. 22, 2013, 11:08:17 AM EDT

Does it really matter which one? -NT - (folkert) - (1) - Oct. 22, 2013, 12:41:47 PM EDT

(Right answer.) -NT - (Ashton) - Oct. 22, 2013, 04:40:30 PM EDT

Or, IOW: Most of them. -NT - (CRConrad) - Oct. 23, 2013, 03:44:55 AM EDT

You got some splainin' to do Petey - (danreck) - (37) - Oct. 24, 2013, 05:24:27 PM EDT

"as mind numbingly incomprehensible as ours plus VAT"? - (CRConrad) - (29) - Oct. 25, 2013, 01:51:55 AM EDT

Yup. - (Another Scott) - (15) - Oct. 25, 2013, 08:15:41 AM EDT

Secretly? Not quite the right word there. -NT - (drook) - Oct. 25, 2013, 08:49:40 AM EDT

so you are supporting the fairtax or still demagogueing it? - (boxley) - (13) - Oct. 25, 2013, 10:34:58 AM EDT

Heh. - (Another Scott) - (12) - Oct. 25, 2013, 11:31:05 AM EDT

support a VAT of 23% but not a sales tax of 23% got it :-) -NT - (boxley) - (11) - Oct. 25, 2013, 11:54:06 AM EDT

The difference between VAT and sales tax. - (Another Scott) - (10) - Oct. 25, 2013, 12:48:45 PM EDT

We need to tax unearned income at the same rate as earned. - (mmoffitt) - (6) - Oct. 25, 2013, 01:09:13 PM EDT

Agreed. -NT - (Another Scott) - Oct. 25, 2013, 01:12:39 PM EDT

Damned Skippy! -NT - (folkert) - Oct. 25, 2013, 04:48:00 PM EDT

agreed, it's all earned -NT - (boxley) - (3) - Oct. 25, 2013, 05:24:27 PM EDT

There you Go Again with the snide self-cancelling phrases - (Ashton) - (2) - Oct. 25, 2013, 05:36:31 PM EDT

Re: There you Go Again with the snide self-cancelling phrase - (boxley) - (1) - Oct. 25, 2013, 05:44:09 PM EDT

There's Shrub-grade mechanical-stubbornness.. for All t'see. -NT - (Ashton) - Oct. 25, 2013, 06:16:55 PM EDT

oh, you mean like this? - (boxley) - (2) - Oct. 25, 2013, 05:31:15 PM EDT

That's not how it works, do your homework -NT - (drook) - (1) - Oct. 25, 2013, 06:11:30 PM EDT

Why... when you will gladly will... - (folkert) - Oct. 26, 2013, 03:30:06 AM EDT

Re: "as mind numbingly incomprehensible as ours plus VAT"? - (danreck) - (12) - Oct. 25, 2013, 10:53:53 AM EDT

Nope, you're still not getting it. - (CRConrad) - (11) - Oct. 25, 2013, 03:17:14 PM EDT

Quite right. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Oct. 25, 2013, 03:28:11 PM EDT

So, in essence, you are Pete by proxy - (danreck) - (9) - Oct. 25, 2013, 05:29:03 PM EDT

naw, save that for the good stuff -NT - (boxley) - Oct. 25, 2013, 05:32:07 PM EDT

Mine's only ten, but he's precocious. - (CRConrad) - Oct. 25, 2013, 06:12:34 PM EDT

Now then, Dan--may I call you 'Dan', Dan? - (Ashton) - (5) - Oct. 25, 2013, 06:14:42 PM EDT

Go right ahead and call him "Milkman Dan". -NT - (CRConrad) - Oct. 25, 2013, 06:16:17 PM EDT

Always going for the Meta aren't you - (danreck) - (3) - Oct. 28, 2013, 09:26:56 AM EDT

No, you just make an arse of yourself. - (CRConrad) - (2) - Oct. 28, 2013, 05:05:25 PM EDT

sure, here crc, have some grapes -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Oct. 28, 2013, 05:41:31 PM EDT

Naah, grapes are far too sweet... - (CRConrad) - Oct. 28, 2013, 07:12:28 PM EDT

Re: European - (a6l6e6x) - Oct. 26, 2013, 11:50:39 AM EDT

Naw, it's dirt simple - (pwhysall) - (6) - Oct. 26, 2013, 01:32:39 PM EDT

That's what I tried to explain to him, but he either refused - (CRConrad) - (5) - Oct. 26, 2013, 05:54:37 PM EDT

It's just so very very sad... - (jake123) - (4) - Oct. 27, 2013, 08:57:46 AM EDT

getting old, not as nimble -NT - (boxley) - (3) - Oct. 27, 2013, 12:33:40 PM EDT

Is that your excuse then? - (folkert) - (2) - Oct. 27, 2013, 12:51:54 PM EDT

Gentle, now... - (Another Scott) - (1) - Oct. 27, 2013, 01:29:42 PM EDT

Yeah yeah... - (folkert) - Oct. 27, 2013, 01:34:11 PM EDT

But they love filthy socialism - (warmachine) - (1) - Oct. 26, 2013, 11:47:13 AM EDT

Well, we've got the world's largest per-capita Gun supply.. - (Ashton) - Oct. 26, 2013, 06:34:05 AM EDT

There will be no disappointment.
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