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Post #379,545 by boxley 8/19/13 3:07:58 PM Reply	bwahahahaha from the comments I'm still voting for Obama for President. If he gets the center seat he can make changes in FISA (with the help of a Democratic Congress). Obama gave his explanation; I'm not crazy about it, but I understand it. Mc Cain won't do anything about FISA. I wonder what that voter thinks now? Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 58 years. meep
Post #379,552 by rcareaga 8/19/13 3:58:15 PM Reply	I imagine that voter still thinks that he voted for the lesser of two evils in 2008. He's probably unhappy, as I am, at how much less "lesser" he got. cordially,
Post #379,554 by folkert 8/19/13 4:02:23 PM Reply	I think... We got the lesser of two evils in 2012. But the bar was set MUCH LOWER for both candidates... and the RMoney bar was so low that I doubt an ant could go under it unscathed. -- greg@gregfolkert.net PGP key 1024D/B524687C 2003-08-05 Fingerprint: E1D3 E3D7 5850 957E FED0 2B3A ED66 6971 B524 687C
Post #379,575 by mmoffitt 8/20/13 8:00:15 AM Reply	2008 was a bad year for me. I lost my naivete that year. When the Indiana State Board of Elections told me that my vote "would be too difficult to count and wouldn't change the outcome" so they decided to disenfranchise me.
Post #379,577 by Another Scott 8/20/13 8:16:33 AM Reply	Don't get disillusioned. Organize and vote out Connie Lawson and her cohorts. http://www.in.gov/sos/2363.htm They want you (and everyone else) to be disillusioned. Don't give in. Cheers, Scott.

Greenwald's partner detained - (rcareaga) - (71) - Aug. 19, 2013, 10:11:20 AM EDT

already there, just going to get worse -NT - (boxley) - Aug. 19, 2013, 10:14:12 AM EDT

Hmm... - (Another Scott) - (54) - Aug. 19, 2013, 10:52:13 AM EDT

It isn't surprising to anyone. - (mmoffitt) - (43) - Aug. 19, 2013, 12:16:42 PM EDT

Of course. Exactly right. <rolls-eyes> -NT - (Another Scott) - (42) - Aug. 19, 2013, 12:17:38 PM EDT

Boot lickers galore in that thread - (jake123) - (1) - Aug. 19, 2013, 03:01:59 PM EDT

From the inside looking out... - (folkert) - Aug. 19, 2013, 03:58:32 PM EDT

What are you roll-eyeing about, exactly? - (CRConrad) - (39) - Aug. 21, 2013, 08:03:07 AM EDT

Shades of grey are important. - (Another Scott) - (38) - Aug. 21, 2013, 08:21:56 AM EDT

"Potential"?!?Did they just "potentially" detain mr Miranda? - (CRConrad) - (37) - Aug. 21, 2013, 08:32:24 AM EDT

Did they break the law in detaining him? - (Another Scott) - (32) - Aug. 21, 2013, 10:59:50 AM EDT

Come on now, I think he's been pretty clear - (drook) - (3) - Aug. 21, 2013, 11:48:50 AM EDT

Fine. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Aug. 21, 2013, 11:55:14 AM EDT

But Scott... - (rcareaga) - (1) - Aug. 21, 2013, 12:41:24 PM EDT

Thank you for the thoughtful response. I appreciate it. -NT - (Another Scott) - Aug. 21, 2013, 01:06:09 PM EDT

Stazi had the law on their side, what they did was legal -NT - (boxley) - (26) - Aug. 21, 2013, 12:39:00 PM EDT

And??? - (Another Scott) - (25) - Aug. 21, 2013, 12:55:39 PM EDT

No one here has claimed that - (rcareaga) - (22) - Aug. 21, 2013, 05:44:34 PM EDT

Brief answers. - (Another Scott) - (21) - Aug. 21, 2013, 04:12:15 PM EDT

just following orders - (rcareaga) - (3) - Aug. 21, 2013, 04:39:02 PM EDT

Dunno. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Aug. 21, 2013, 04:52:20 PM EDT

Hokay - (rcareaga) - (1) - Aug. 21, 2013, 05:30:45 PM EDT

Bloody Cousin Joe, always stealing all my best lines! - (CRConrad) - Sept. 1, 2013, 06:24:51 PM EDT

You're scaring me.. - (Ashton) - (16) - Aug. 21, 2013, 08:03:08 PM EDT

Just my opinions... - (Another Scott) - (15) - Aug. 21, 2013, 09:28:57 PM EDT

Re: Just my opinions... - (rcareaga) - (1) - Aug. 21, 2013, 11:54:18 PM EDT

they werren't lawyers were they? -NT - (boxley) - Aug. 22, 2013, 08:39:05 AM EDT

naw don't stop - (boxley) - (5) - Aug. 22, 2013, 08:54:23 AM EDT

Good lord, boxley - (rcareaga) - (3) - Aug. 22, 2013, 10:29:05 AM EDT

The misrepresentation was ... - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 22, 2013, 11:07:18 AM EDT

I know that it was meant that their system would bury ours - (boxley) - (1) - Aug. 22, 2013, 11:43:59 AM EDT

Agree; it was a collective effort, though.. - (Ashton) - Aug. 23, 2013, 03:03:02 AM EDT

Driving While... Black, Indian, Homo? - (CRConrad) - Sept. 1, 2013, 06:30:27 PM EDT

If I offended you, I apologize. - (mmoffitt) - (6) - Aug. 22, 2013, 09:43:39 AM EDT

No offense taken, and none given, I hope. - (Another Scott) - (5) - Aug. 22, 2013, 12:04:51 PM EDT

Certainly none taken here, as well. - (Ashton) - (4) - Aug. 23, 2013, 01:46:51 AM EDT

Nope, that's actually not the main effect. - (CRConrad) - (3) - Sept. 1, 2013, 06:40:45 PM EDT

It could be a Right- Left- Orthogonal- brain dysfunction, - (Ashton) - (2) - Sept. 2, 2013, 08:15:46 PM EDT

Sorry, was that intended only for the BOx? - (CRConrad) - (1) - Sept. 3, 2013, 04:36:46 AM EDT

IF !=a bi-brain like 'us', but has a tri-brain? THEN: - (Ashton) - Sept. 3, 2013, 04:48:03 PM EDT

think you skipped a paragraph - (boxley) - (1) - Aug. 21, 2013, 06:28:15 PM EDT

And the answer, of course, was provided in Nuremberg. - (CRConrad) - Sept. 1, 2013, 06:34:44 PM EDT

Did I say what the Gestapo and Cheka did was illegal? - (CRConrad) - Sept. 1, 2013, 06:12:46 PM EDT

IRLRPD - (rcareaga) - (3) - Aug. 21, 2013, 12:43:16 PM EDT

;^> - (Ashton) - (1) - Aug. 21, 2013, 08:19:24 PM EDT

Naah; I think I introduced it here, to this gang... - (CRConrad) - Sept. 1, 2013, 06:47:08 PM EDT

"Du bist Willkommen", as the Germans say. - (CRConrad) - Sept. 1, 2013, 06:48:28 PM EDT

So, Scott... - (rcareaga) - (9) - Aug. 19, 2013, 12:57:41 PM EDT

I understand that appearance. - (Another Scott) - (8) - Aug. 19, 2013, 01:29:29 PM EDT

quod erat demonstrandum - (rcareaga) - (7) - Aug. 19, 2013, 02:10:14 PM EDT

Perhaps inartfully expressed. - (Another Scott) - (6) - Aug. 19, 2013, 02:26:09 PM EDT

My point being... - (rcareaga) - (5) - Aug. 19, 2013, 03:55:24 PM EDT

Amen. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 19, 2013, 04:53:31 PM EDT

Reasonable points, but... - (Another Scott) - (3) - Aug. 19, 2013, 05:58:32 PM EDT

Didja see the Movie - 2 Guns? - (folkert) - (2) - Aug. 19, 2013, 09:18:37 PM EDT

I'll put it on the list. Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - Aug. 19, 2013, 09:24:08 PM EDT

If you watch it soon... - (folkert) - Aug. 20, 2013, 10:15:40 AM EDT

Blowback already? - (mmoffitt) - (6) - Aug. 19, 2013, 01:21:21 PM EDT

I'm Shocked, Shocked!!!11 - (Another Scott) - (5) - Aug. 19, 2013, 01:35:33 PM EDT

bwahahahaha - (boxley) - (4) - Aug. 19, 2013, 03:07:58 PM EDT

I imagine that voter still thinks - (rcareaga) - (3) - Aug. 19, 2013, 03:58:15 PM EDT

I think... - (folkert) - Aug. 19, 2013, 04:02:23 PM EDT

2008 was a bad year for me. I lost my naivete that year. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Aug. 20, 2013, 08:00:15 AM EDT

Don't get disillusioned. - (Another Scott) - Aug. 20, 2013, 08:16:33 AM EDT

Wonkette's take. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Aug. 19, 2013, 09:22:53 PM EDT

yes wonkette's preferences are noted in the comments - (boxley) - (1) - Aug. 20, 2013, 09:27:47 AM EDT

Was also said in the first paragraph. ;-) -NT - (Another Scott) - Aug. 20, 2013, 10:06:56 AM EDT

all perfectly legal - (rcareaga) - (1) - Aug. 20, 2013, 10:12:40 AM EDT

Looks to me like they did an epic job of trolling the UK gov -NT - (jake123) - Aug. 20, 2013, 03:00:45 PM EDT

Pierce weighs in - (rcareaga) - (2) - Aug. 20, 2013, 10:35:29 AM EDT

Heh. -NT - (Another Scott) - Aug. 20, 2013, 10:35:58 AM EDT

having worked around security types in the past - (boxley) - Aug. 20, 2013, 08:10:41 PM EDT

Do not ask for whom the bellicose tolls.
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