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Post #377,826

by boxley

7/9/13 10:19:51 PM

hurt what cause

pass a law that if you dig into peoples private shit without a warrant you go to jail. Identify a suspect, convince a judge you have cause then ask for private data to be collected from the companies that hold the data. Done. If your argument is that several thousand people will die in attacks, thats the price of not living with the stazi police state. You do realize that the FUCKING GERMANS have a problem with what we are doing to our own people?

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Post #377,836

by drook

7/10/13 9:58:50 AM

LRPD I posted a little while back fits here

I'd rather be wrong occasionally than live in fear and be right occasionally.

--

Drew

Snowden: 8 key quotes - (Ashton) - (67) - July 8, 2013, 05:06:15 PM EDT

Meh. - (Another Scott) - (64) - July 8, 2013, 07:06:29 PM EDT

That was before torture and indefinite detention were policy -NT - (jake123) - (62) - July 8, 2013, 08:01:37 PM EDT

not to mention unsanctioned assassination... -NT - (hnick) - (61) - July 8, 2013, 08:37:40 PM EDT

sensory deprivation and solitary confinement.... -NT - (jake123) - (3) - July 8, 2013, 08:48:46 PM EDT

Snowden's a civilian. -NT - (Another Scott) - (2) - July 8, 2013, 09:03:07 PM EDT

So's Richard Reid. -NT - (jake123) - (1) - July 8, 2013, 09:11:43 PM EDT

Not domestic espionage or leak. -NT - (Another Scott) - July 8, 2013, 09:16:14 PM EDT

Hyperbole much you two? - (Another Scott) - (56) - July 8, 2013, 09:01:30 PM EDT

even a live boy eh? -NT - (boxley) - July 8, 2013, 09:13:06 PM EDT

I think it's really clear that Americans don't really - (jake123) - (29) - July 8, 2013, 09:46:27 PM EDT

Yes, we have big blinders. - (Another Scott) - (28) - July 8, 2013, 10:31:59 PM EDT

ahem, note the "outside of the borders" - (boxley) - (23) - July 9, 2013, 08:48:34 AM EDT

They can't use Americans' data without a warrant. HTH. -NT - (Another Scott) - (22) - July 9, 2013, 09:09:19 AM EDT

s/can't/can't in theory/ -NT - (pwhysall) - July 9, 2013, 09:48:39 AM EDT

wrong, ana analyst can choose to check the data -NT - (boxley) - (20) - July 9, 2013, 10:28:35 AM EDT

Re: wrong, ana analyst can choose to check the data - (Another Scott) - (19) - July 9, 2013, 11:06:19 AM EDT

live boy, etc -NT - (boxley) - (18) - July 9, 2013, 12:32:46 PM EDT

More words please. - (Another Scott) - (17) - July 9, 2013, 12:54:26 PM EDT

sounds like you would excuse the live boy scenario - (boxley) - (16) - July 9, 2013, 01:26:28 PM EDT

Back to when? - (Another Scott) - (15) - July 9, 2013, 01:37:34 PM EDT

foreign, get them out of the domestic pool -NT - (boxley) - (14) - July 9, 2013, 01:50:42 PM EDT

How? They say they do that now. - (Another Scott) - (13) - July 9, 2013, 01:57:48 PM EDT

rm -rf /domestic_data_collection -NT - (boxley) - (12) - July 9, 2013, 02:11:56 PM EDT

You're just trolling now. -NT - (Another Scott) - (11) - July 9, 2013, 02:12:21 PM EDT

nope, remove all domestic data from their servers - (boxley) - (10) - July 9, 2013, 02:17:05 PM EDT

See, Scott, now you've got me agreeing - (rcareaga) - (2) - July 9, 2013, 02:31:00 PM EDT

I know the arguments. I just don't see it. :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - July 9, 2013, 02:34:47 PM EDT

I hope I'm being unwontedly gloomy - (rcareaga) - July 9, 2013, 02:48:46 PM EDT

How? - (Another Scott) - (6) - July 9, 2013, 02:33:57 PM EDT

Technical question - (drook) - (2) - July 9, 2013, 02:41:43 PM EDT

They seem to monitor all kinds of EM radiation. Maps. - (Another Scott) - (1) - July 9, 2013, 02:52:34 PM EDT

Nice piece by Fallows.. - (Ashton) - July 11, 2013, 11:51:22 PM EDT

Re: How? - (boxley) - (2) - July 9, 2013, 02:50:47 PM EDT

Multiband phones are common. Verizon has them. - (Another Scott) - (1) - July 9, 2013, 03:00:42 PM EDT

sawright, -NT - (boxley) - July 9, 2013, 03:21:10 PM EDT

He "ran away to [y]our adversaries"? Which darn adversaries? - (CRConrad) - (3) - July 12, 2013, 12:44:31 PM EDT

Shorthand. - (Another Scott) - (2) - July 12, 2013, 01:08:28 PM EDT

YOUR arguments, sure. But you're not the USA. - (CRConrad) - (1) - July 13, 2013, 08:08:25 AM EDT

Can't argue that. -NT - (Another Scott) - July 13, 2013, 08:21:09 AM EDT

It's rare that I disagree with you - (rcareaga) - (24) - July 8, 2013, 10:25:19 PM EDT

We'll see. - (Another Scott) - (18) - July 8, 2013, 11:04:05 PM EDT

Re: We'll see. - (rcareaga) - (17) - July 8, 2013, 11:55:50 PM EDT

Re: We'll see. - (Another Scott) - (16) - July 9, 2013, 08:14:30 AM EDT

delusional is a bit harsh - (rcareaga) - (15) - July 9, 2013, 12:47:09 PM EDT

If it wasn't done in malice or to reward enemies... - (Another Scott) - (12) - July 9, 2013, 01:34:16 PM EDT

stayed in his barracks like manning? that didnt turn out wel -NT - (boxley) - (6) - July 9, 2013, 01:52:13 PM EDT

The trial's not over; and military is different than civil. -NT - (Another Scott) - (5) - July 9, 2013, 01:58:33 PM EDT

You are so full of sh*t - (crazy) - (4) - July 9, 2013, 07:36:23 PM EDT

Soonergrunt's been watching the trial. - (Another Scott) - (3) - Aug. 6, 2013, 02:22:35 PM EDT

Perhaps a Re-Education Camp is in order, yes? -NT - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 6, 2013, 04:49:56 PM EDT

Practically a reprieve, eh? (+ a Larry Summers quip) - (Ashton) - (1) - Aug. 6, 2013, 07:07:40 PM EDT

We'll see how both turn out. - (Another Scott) - Aug. 6, 2013, 07:43:48 PM EDT

About that head-crawling thing.. - (Ashton) - (4) - July 9, 2013, 04:08:56 PM EDT

Thanks, but... - (Another Scott) - (3) - July 9, 2013, 07:55:15 PM EDT

'Twixt the 3, plus other samples: concur on several - (Ashton) - July 9, 2013, 10:40:11 PM EDT

hurt what cause - (boxley) - (1) - July 9, 2013, 10:19:51 PM EDT

LRPD I posted a little while back fits here - (drook) - July 10, 2013, 09:58:50 AM EDT

Welcome to the Party, Tovarisch. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - July 9, 2013, 02:35:11 PM EDT

rofl. -NT - (Another Scott) - July 9, 2013, 02:35:47 PM EDT

Wife believes it was a tragic accident. - (Another Scott) - (4) - Aug. 6, 2013, 05:46:55 PM EDT

wonder if she has an old greek guy with an island lined up? -NT - (boxley) - Aug. 6, 2013, 09:03:16 PM EDT

LA Coroner report. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Aug. 20, 2013, 09:19:21 PM EDT

Mnemosyne chimes in. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Aug. 21, 2013, 06:55:06 AM EDT

Plot thickens.. but will it gel? - (Ashton) - Aug. 22, 2013, 07:46:54 PM EDT

Right. Under Obama, ... - (mmoffitt) - July 9, 2013, 10:07:00 AM EDT

Interesting/related Betty Cracker thread at Balloon-Juice. - (Another Scott) - (1) - July 9, 2013, 03:50:53 PM EDT

I like this one - (boxley) - July 9, 2013, 04:08:25 PM EDT

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