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why pay a penalty for not being single?
Post #377,129
by
boxley
6/28/13 10:17:22 AM
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why pay a penalty for not being single?
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free American and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 58 years. meep
Post #377,140
by
mmoffitt
6/28/13 12:34:23 PM
Reply
There's a negative economic impact in cohabitation.
One dwelling, one set of property taxes, one washer, stove, dryer, etc.
Besides, *I* paid the marriage penalty for seven years. Why shouldn't everybody? I mean, that's only FAIR isn't it?
Survey on DOMA.
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Another Scott
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- (114)
- June 27, 2013, 07:49:05 AM EDT
Done.
-NT
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mmoffitt
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- June 27, 2013, 09:33:53 AM EDT
Done.
-NT
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hnick
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- June 27, 2013, 10:03:41 AM EDT
Also done.
-NT
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Andrew Grygus
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- June 27, 2013, 11:40:40 AM EDT
Done also.
-NT
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a6l6e6x
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- June 27, 2013, 12:09:21 PM EDT
Seriously done!
-NT
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folkert
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- June 27, 2013, 02:37:54 PM EDT
Check
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drook
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- (106)
- June 27, 2013, 02:46:20 PM EDT
Affects the tax base.
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mmoffitt
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- (11)
- June 27, 2013, 03:43:12 PM EDT
Bzzzzt, thank you for playing
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drook
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- (9)
- June 27, 2013, 03:57:58 PM EDT
I think he means the actual case at hand.
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Another Scott
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- (7)
- June 27, 2013, 04:42:29 PM EDT
That's *her* standing
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drook
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- (6)
- June 27, 2013, 04:57:19 PM EDT
I think the argument is...
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Another Scott
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- (5)
- June 27, 2013, 06:40:56 PM EDT
Even if true ...
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drook
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- June 27, 2013, 06:50:15 PM EDT
That's as may be...
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malraux
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- (3)
- June 27, 2013, 06:57:58 PM EDT
Now you're getting there. But, ...
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mmoffitt
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- (2)
- June 28, 2013, 08:47:03 AM EDT
why pay a penalty for not being single?
-NT
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boxley
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- (1)
- June 28, 2013, 10:17:22 AM EDT
There's a negative economic impact in cohabitation.
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mmoffitt
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- June 28, 2013, 12:34:23 PM EDT
I was unclear.
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mmoffitt
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- June 28, 2013, 08:50:39 AM EDT
costly to the taxpayer? It's not your money
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boxley
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- June 27, 2013, 05:57:18 PM EDT
But it *will* affect you!
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pwhysall
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- (6)
- June 28, 2013, 03:06:29 AM EDT
Are you SURE you don't live here?
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hnick
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- (5)
- June 28, 2013, 06:24:16 AM EDT
Even up in the north...
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folkert
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- (4)
- June 28, 2013, 09:21:50 AM EDT
Huh, wha? I've never been to the Netherlands!
-NT
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CRConrad
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- (3)
- June 28, 2013, 07:04:07 PM EDT
Ummm...
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folkert
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- (2)
- June 28, 2013, 08:13:54 PM EDT
I've never Reformed any Churchies either!
-NT
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CRConrad
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- June 28, 2013, 09:40:57 PM EDT
Jussa so's yews noes...
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folkert
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- June 29, 2013, 02:15:07 AM EDT
WOW.
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mmoffitt
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- (86)
- June 28, 2013, 04:41:30 PM EDT
Um... Justice?
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hnick
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- (85)
- June 28, 2013, 04:49:35 PM EDT
Nonsense. Did they have kids?
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mmoffitt
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- (84)
- June 28, 2013, 04:59:30 PM EDT
Really?
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Another Scott
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- (2)
- June 28, 2013, 05:12:19 PM EDT
Maybe in the short term.
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mmoffitt
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- July 1, 2013, 06:01:47 PM EDT
The number you want is "new household formation".
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Another Scott
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- July 1, 2013, 07:26:08 PM EDT
so you are one of them
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boxley
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- June 28, 2013, 05:13:24 PM EDT
Re: Nonsense. Did they have kids?
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hnick
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- (58)
- June 28, 2013, 06:13:14 PM EDT
Sans kids, what are the societal benefits of marriage?
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mmoffitt
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- (57)
- July 1, 2013, 06:23:54 PM EDT
I remember arguing with Ben why atheists want to marry
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boxley
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- (1)
- July 1, 2013, 07:15:48 PM EDT
Man, I am *NOT* making my point about marriage.
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mmoffitt
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- July 1, 2013, 09:12:48 PM EDT
Re: Sans kids, what are the societal benefits of marriage?
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Another Scott
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- (54)
- July 1, 2013, 07:38:37 PM EDT
So what?
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mmoffitt
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- (53)
- July 1, 2013, 09:23:03 PM EDT
Re: So what?
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Another Scott
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- (52)
- July 1, 2013, 09:34:21 PM EDT
:0)
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mmoffitt
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- (51)
- July 1, 2013, 09:44:47 PM EDT
That's rough.
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Another Scott
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- (50)
- July 1, 2013, 10:40:01 PM EDT
I don't think your marriage is a sham marriage.
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mmoffitt
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- (49)
- July 2, 2013, 06:37:02 PM EDT
How about mine?
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crazy
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- July 2, 2013, 08:14:52 PM EDT
No societal benefit != no benefit.
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mmoffitt
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- July 2, 2013, 10:03:07 PM EDT
I wasn't pointing at you specifically.
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Another Scott
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- July 2, 2013, 08:56:31 PM EDT
No. Come on, Scott, have I really been that unclear?
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mmoffitt
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- (45)
- July 2, 2013, 09:30:51 PM EDT
There's a difference between "expected" and "the purpose"
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drook
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- July 2, 2013, 09:37:48 PM EDT
Thank you.
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mmoffitt
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- July 2, 2013, 09:48:12 PM EDT
I think it went off the rails here.
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Another Scott
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- (1)
- July 2, 2013, 10:07:45 PM EDT
Yep, that was subjective.
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mmoffitt
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- July 2, 2013, 10:10:26 PM EDT
We're talking past each other.
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Another Scott
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- (40)
- July 2, 2013, 09:54:29 PM EDT
I think that's slightly disingenuous.
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mmoffitt
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- (39)
- July 2, 2013, 10:08:40 PM EDT
See above. I don't know how to say more...
-NT
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Another Scott
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- (27)
- July 2, 2013, 10:10:15 PM EDT
Dude, Seriously?
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mmoffitt
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- (26)
- July 2, 2013, 10:11:38 PM EDT
Expectations change.
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Another Scott
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- (25)
- July 2, 2013, 10:34:23 PM EDT
An equal protection claim assumes the result.
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mmoffitt
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- (24)
- July 2, 2013, 10:56:56 PM EDT
you are confused
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boxley
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- (1)
- July 2, 2013, 11:00:32 PM EDT
Yeah, I didn't get a call. Stupid b*stards. :0)
-NT
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mmoffitt
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- July 2, 2013, 11:02:29 PM EDT
BZZT - sorry, elementary logic lacking.
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CRConrad
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- (21)
- July 3, 2013, 05:37:10 AM EDT
on A3) dont forget to steal all their stuff as well.
-NT
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boxley
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- July 3, 2013, 08:35:59 AM EDT
First, I never said "reproduction was a requirement".
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mmoffitt
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- (19)
- July 3, 2013, 01:21:10 PM EDT
On your addendum.
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Another Scott
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- July 3, 2013, 03:04:01 PM EDT
Yes you did. But never mind that; let's talk people in stead
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CRConrad
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- (17)
- July 3, 2013, 03:15:18 PM EDT
My last bit. A little clarification.
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mmoffitt
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- (16)
- July 6, 2013, 11:36:52 AM EDT
Wake up.
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Another Scott
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- (9)
- July 6, 2013, 12:07:00 PM EDT
Racial discrimination is a different issue entirely.
-NT
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mmoffitt
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- (7)
- July 6, 2013, 02:19:48 PM EDT
Equal protection is Equal protection. QED.
-NT
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Another Scott
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- (6)
- July 6, 2013, 02:22:57 PM EDT
Can we discriminate against polygamists?
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mmoffitt
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- (5)
- July 6, 2013, 02:54:28 PM EDT
Is polygamist marriage legal in the US?
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Another Scott
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- (2)
- July 6, 2013, 03:10:21 PM EDT
How about Amendment 10?
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mmoffitt
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- (1)
- July 6, 2013, 05:13:02 PM EDT
was legal in utah before statehood
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boxley
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- July 6, 2013, 06:31:41 PM EDT
uh, no. Just wont allow them to get stamped by the gummint
-NT
- (
boxley
)
- (1)
- July 6, 2013, 05:01:37 PM EDT
Concur. The state no longer has an interest in marriage.
-NT
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mmoffitt
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- July 6, 2013, 05:14:31 PM EDT
Re: Wake up. ... Interesting that they cited Korematsu
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Ashton
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- July 7, 2013, 05:08:00 AM EDT
A distinction without a difference.
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CRConrad
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- (4)
- July 6, 2013, 06:34:26 PM EDT
And there it is.
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mmoffitt
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- (3)
- July 7, 2013, 01:06:17 PM EDT
Not assume, *declare*
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drook
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- (2)
- July 7, 2013, 01:33:44 PM EDT
Oh, he won't answer this one
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crazy
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- July 7, 2013, 03:59:28 PM EDT
Where and when was this declaration made?
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mmoffitt
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- July 8, 2013, 01:25:35 PM EDT
Sorry, you still lost about six levels ago.
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CRConrad
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- July 6, 2013, 07:21:49 PM EDT
state involvement in marriage was about division of property
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boxley
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- (10)
- July 2, 2013, 10:50:48 PM EDT
Among DESCENDANTS, right?
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mmoffitt
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- (2)
- July 2, 2013, 10:58:10 PM EDT
absolutely, now with dna you dont need contracts to
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boxley
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- (1)
- July 2, 2013, 11:02:21 PM EDT
I'm with you.
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mmoffitt
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- July 2, 2013, 11:03:39 PM EDT
<sigh>
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Another Scott
)
- (6)
- July 2, 2013, 11:10:31 PM EDT
why, I was right that time as well :-)
-NT
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boxley
)
- (1)
- July 3, 2013, 08:33:35 AM EDT
Heh. No. :-)
-NT
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Another Scott
)
- July 3, 2013, 08:55:09 AM EDT
How'd I miss that thread? ;0)
-NT
- (
mmoffitt
)
- (3)
- July 3, 2013, 01:14:14 PM EDT
Just lucky I guess.
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Another Scott
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- (2)
- July 3, 2013, 02:49:15 PM EDT
The best part is...
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mmoffitt
)
- (1)
- July 6, 2013, 11:39:29 AM EDT
Indeed!
-NT
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Another Scott
)
- July 6, 2013, 12:07:28 PM EDT
Things we have: "adoption", "artificial insemination"...
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malraux
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- (20)
- June 28, 2013, 06:41:46 PM EDT
Adoption and Artificial insemination rely on others.
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mmoffitt
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- (19)
- July 1, 2013, 06:25:23 PM EDT
"Zero chance" is BS
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malraux
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- (18)
- July 1, 2013, 06:35:22 PM EDT
Drop it, it's not about sex
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drook
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- (9)
- July 1, 2013, 07:09:21 PM EDT
He's only talking about the sex.
-NT
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CRConrad
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- (8)
- July 1, 2013, 07:54:28 PM EDT
No, I'm not. Everyone else is.
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mmoffitt
)
- (7)
- July 1, 2013, 08:50:17 PM EDT
now I'm confused
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boxley
)
- (1)
- July 1, 2013, 08:54:48 PM EDT
No.
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mmoffitt
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- July 1, 2013, 09:14:23 PM EDT
Yes you are, of course. Straight hetero making-babies sex.
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CRConrad
)
- (4)
- July 2, 2013, 06:09:33 AM EDT
Um, No.
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mmoffitt
)
- (3)
- July 2, 2013, 10:19:03 PM EDT
thats one convert :-)
-NT
- (
boxley
)
- July 2, 2013, 10:31:26 PM EDT
Succinct, sure -- but above all, WRONG.
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CRConrad
)
- (1)
- July 3, 2013, 01:27:28 AM EDT
I'm aware of the shady company I'm keeping.
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mmoffitt
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- July 3, 2013, 01:29:11 PM EDT
I'll answer. Again.
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mmoffitt
)
- (7)
- July 1, 2013, 09:32:42 PM EDT
what savings
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boxley
)
- (1)
- July 1, 2013, 11:18:39 PM EDT
I'm on your side.
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mmoffitt
)
- July 2, 2013, 09:52:52 PM EDT
That sounds convoluted and far-fetched.
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CRConrad
)
- (4)
- July 2, 2013, 05:57:34 AM EDT
no, he is pissed because he cant steal dead peoples money
-NT
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boxley
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- July 2, 2013, 08:53:21 AM EDT
I'm a homophobe because I want ...
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mmoffitt
)
- (2)
- July 2, 2013, 09:39:01 PM EDT
Back-pedaling much?
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CRConrad
)
- (1)
- July 3, 2013, 04:40:44 AM EDT
If you change premises, you have to change conclusions.
-NT
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mmoffitt
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- July 3, 2013, 01:27:09 PM EDT
Done ... to a crisp.
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Ashton
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- (1)
- June 27, 2013, 03:47:24 PM EDT
Methinks this thread (also) is done to a crisp.
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Ashton
)
- July 4, 2013, 12:51:22 AM EDT
i
we
they
.org
That's the kind of thing I enjoyed watching for hours on acid.
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