It's good to see you're staying true to form.

Post #37,285 by Brandioch 5/2/02 9:50:06 PM Reply	It's good to see you're staying true to form. I still remember when I could name the environmental companies I worked for and you refused to name the one you worked for. The same M.O. from you each time. And then you run away claiming that I'm the one at fault. Bill, that would work >IF< everyone didn't know that you are incapable of supplying any facts. I told you the companies I worked for, you couldn't do the same. And the same can be seen in this discussion. You just CAN'T support your position with facts. And every time you run away blaming me for your inability to name the company you work for (or provide any other facts to support your position). But, you'll be back on the very next discussion. Right up until I start digging at you for facts. Then you'll run, again. And blame me for your lack of facts. Until the next discussion. And the questions are never that difficult. You do know the name of the company you work for, right? You do know what resources we import, right? You do know what countries we import them from, right? Oh, am I wrong on those points? You can't even answer the questions that you should know the answers to. Because you're afraid that your lies will be revealed. Whatever. Run away. Come back when you've grown up a little.
Post #37,303 by bepatient 5/3/02 1:19:25 AM Reply	Slight variant... I'm much quicker to tell you to go fuck yourself. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #37,338 by Brandioch 5/3/02 11:37:55 AM Reply	The name of the country, Bill. Or the resource. That's all. I'm much quicker to tell you to go fuck yourself. I'll even disagree with that. I'm the one who isn't wasting time trying to work with you. You ALWAYS run when I start digging at you for facts. The ONLY difference is how quickly I start digging. If I wasn't digging, you'd still be happily spewing your lies and fantasies. Prove I'm wrong, Bill. Name the country -or- Name the resource. It can't be THAT hard. Unless you have no idea what you're spouting about. The it will be impossible. But feel free to blame me for your ignorance. "Well, I >WAS< going to tell you but you're mean to me so I'm not going to tell you now." Bill, grow up. There isn't a person on this board who doesn't recognize shit like that for exactly what it is. Particularly when you have no trouble digging up facts when you think I'm wrong. (reference my comments about Ben & Jerry and your cop killer example) If you can't handle an adult discussion, just keep your childish ass out of them. Or grow the fuck up already.
Post #37,354 by bepatient 5/3/02 1:18:16 PM Reply	You seem to want me to repeat myself. There is a distinct difference between having an adult discussion...which would allow for participants to apply thought to a situation and how that situation may change given a new set of circumstances.... And the nitpicky tit for tat bullshit you spew... So I'll repeat myself... Fuck off. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #37,363 by Brandioch 5/3/02 2:32:24 PM Reply	The name of the country, Bill. Or the resource. That's all. There is a distinct difference between having an adult discussion...which would allow for participants to apply thought to a situation and how that situation may change given a new set of circumstances.... And the nitpicky tit for tat bullshit you spew... I asked you a question about something you posted. You run and hide and blame me for your ignorance. You seem quite capable of posting your immature attacks at me. But you seem quite INCAPABLE of answering simple questions. It is not MY fault that you are ignorant. It is not MY fault that you are more cowardly than I (I can post the names of companies I worked for to substantiate my claims, you cannot). In other words, Bill, NONE of your faults are MY fault. You are the person you are because that is who you are. Deal with it.
Post #37,421 by bepatient 5/3/02 10:21:07 PM Reply	This space and your mind = blank You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #37,425 by Brandioch 5/3/02 11:10:15 PM Reply	The name of the country, Bill. Or the resource. That's all. You still can't do it, can you?
Post #37,429 by Another Scott 5/3/02 11:35:34 PM Reply	It's getting tiresome. :-( Perhaps you and BP should post under new pseudonyms when responding to each other. I fear there's too much bad blood between you two to shed any light through your correspondence. Cheers, Scott.
Post #37,439 by bepatient 5/4/02 1:15:02 AM Reply	Yes it is... ...but funny in its own way. For all of his intelligence he can't seem to understand that my choice is simply not to debate in his style. My initial post was rhetorical. Designed to point out several flaws in the position that our problems in the Middle East are all due to oil. (oversimplistic and definitely not root cause...contributory sure...compromising National Security..please...) His response was to as for specific answers to rhetorical questions. (bog) Take the other issue of my company name. It was an unecessary question. But my lack of an answer to that unecessary question (even though with half a brain and a little memory he should have already known it..since there is only 1 french owned oil/chemical conglomerate) incurs a litany of posts much like the ones above. Constant badgering about things completely unrelated to the discussion. But...apologies to the board...I was being a good boy for a while and not entering discussions where right shift was an option. In the immortal words of Firesign Theater... Back to the Shadows again! There will be no further posts made by me in this thread. You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #37,471 by Brandioch 5/4/02 8:43:49 AM Reply	The name of the country, Bill. Or the resource. That's all. My initial post was rhetorical. Designed to point out several flaws in the position that our problems in the Middle East are all due to oil. And the flaw in THAT theory is that you are not able to substantiate ANY of your "rhetorical" questions. Example, I say the moon is made out of rock. You ask if there aren't ANY celestial objects made of cheese. (rhetorical) So I ask you to name ONE that is made of cheese. And THAT is where the discussion is right now. You've asked if another country could control another resource. I've asked what country or what resource. Take the other issue of my company name. It was an unecessary question. Negative. You had made statements that you substatiated by claims of insider knowledge. You also seemed to be claiming that you were a government official interviewing violators AND AT THE SAME TIME a worker in a private company. So, I gave the names of the companies that I had worked for and why I disagreed with your position. That was so that ANYONE could, if interested, verify that I did have the background I claimed. In the field I claimed. While your claim was based upon your claim to secret, revealed wisdom that can not be verified. Verification IS part of any discussion. Constant badgering about things completely unrelated to the discussion. It is related to the discussion. It is an example of your "discussion" method. Simple put, you make claims without substantiation and when pressed for substantiation, you blame your inability to provide facts on me. You have done this before. You did this in this thread. You will do this again. Like I said, I can provide facts and references. You will not/can not. For all of his intelligence he can't seem to understand that my choice is simply not to debate in his style. And my debate style is to support my position with facts and references. Which means that your "debate" style is........?

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