Post #368,226
12/20/12 8:42:34 AM
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A part of that is completely backwards.
If you refuse to accept the necessity of including the House, then you're refusing to accept our form of government.
No. It is because I accept our form of government and understand how it is supposed to work that I do not accept what is being done. Saying that rejecting what Republicans have done at least since the 1980's is equivalent to failing to accept our form of government misses the mark so completely that it is almost laughable. The Soviet Constitution was superior to ours in many respects. Applying the same reasoning as that in the above quote would lead you to conclude that the Soviet government was superior to ours.
It is precisely because I do believe in our form of government that I reject the legitimacy of the Republican Party and their politics. And their politics, I am sorry to say, are almost indistinguishable from modern Democratic Party politics. When the players are not following the rules, you don't need a new set of rules. You don't change the way you play because your opponents aren't playing by the rules. Not if you want to remain legitimate. What you need is new players. But if all players become the same, what's the use?
Ted Kennedy once said, "You never defeat an adversary by becoming just like him." Those are words our President should take very much to heart.
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Post #368,228
12/20/12 8:58:45 AM
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But . what . would . you . do . specifically. :-)
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Post #368,231
12/20/12 9:38:48 AM
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I.would.not.compromise.
Sure, the country'd go to hell for maybe a decade or so, but we're heading there anyway. The first thing I'd do is say to the teeming masses, "Social Security has FSCK ALL to do with the deficit. You know what caused the national debt? The Republican Party. Before their hero Reagan, we were the world's leading creditor nation. In four years Republican policies turned the world's leading creditor nation into a debtor nation for the first time since 1914. The way they did it was by turning the tax code literally on its head for the richest Americans. Before they got their way with the tax code, those folks were paying a tax rate of 72% on their income over 360,000 and keeping 28%. With Republican policies they changed that and they began paying 28% on the money above 360,000 and keeping 72%. What did they do with all that money? They took it out of our country and hid it in things like Cayman Island bank accounts where they vacation. Before Reagan left office the US was the world's leading debtor nation. Republicans call that economic success. I don't. Now these same idiots want you to believe that I don't care about you trying to make a living for your family of four on 55,000. They don't even know anyone who makes less than several million and that is exactly who they represent. ..."
You make that case to the American people. If the right wingers don't back down or get thrown out of office, then you tell the American people, "Look. These guys are as corrupt as it gets and things are going to get very hard in the coming years. I tried to get them to see that billionaires have been coddled for the past 30 years at the expense of everybody else. I don't have much I can do by myself, but there is one thing I can do. We are going to print money 24/7 until our entire National debt is paid off. That will cause the dollar to collapse and things will get hard. But they will get better eventually. But I warn you, if you keep sending idiots to Washington like Boehner, Ryan, McConnell, Cantor and the rest, they'll screw everything up again for the benefit of their pals on Wall Street."
In short, monetizing the fricking debt would be a good start. Without a national debt, the fricking Republican Nazis won't have that in their quiver to continue to screw the working class with.
In shorter still, I'd make changes you can believe in.
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Post #368,232
12/20/12 9:45:00 AM
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Does the president have the authority to do that?
Can he print money without approval from congress?
And how does "would.not.compromise." not fit your definition of "becoming just like him"?
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Drew
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Post #368,233
12/20/12 9:47:58 AM
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I have principles. They don't.
Are you saying that we became "just like Hitler" when we fought against the Nazis?
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I know. Godwin again. But I believe in "calling a spade a spade" as my dad used to say.
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Post #368,237
12/20/12 10:06:59 AM
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tying german soldiers on tanks with barbwire?
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Post #368,236
12/20/12 10:06:14 AM
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congress doesnt print money, the fed does
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Post #368,239
12/20/12 11:37:54 AM
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Um, Article I - Section 8 - Enumerated Powers
http://en.wikipedia....Enumerated_powers
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;
To establish a uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;
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The House has to be involved in setting the budget of the United States. If the House refuses to pass a bill, the President can't do anything about it but cajole.
Compromises are always necessary. Always.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #368,244
12/20/12 1:37:58 PM
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He'd have his enemies executed
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Post #368,246
12/20/12 2:29:59 PM
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Well, yes. That's what I said. :p
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Post #368,247
12/20/12 2:38:14 PM
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Which most of us will end up sooner or later
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