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Post #36,577
by static
4/26/02 8:20:16 AM
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New I disagree.
The DOM in IE 5.5 is actually pretty stable. You can do a lot by sticking to the W3C DOM, though the IE5.5 extensions are convenient. I know this because I (currently) build intranet web pages for a living; mostly with PHP but for client-side stuff, JavaScript is the only option. We currently target IE 5.5, but we'd like better cross-browser compatibility. In our sights next is IE 5.1/Mac, then IE 5.0/Win32, then NetScape 6 (probably 6.2). Opera is further down the list than it should be because they're actually behind everyone else with their DOM implementation. And Netscape 4 had already been ruled out.

Wade.

"All around me are nothing but fakes
Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
Post #36,640
by tablizer
4/26/02 10:42:39 PM
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New consistent bugs
(* The DOM in IE 5.5 is actually pretty stable. *)

Meaning that the bugs are consistent? I found at least 2 repeatable, and significant bugs in IE 6. Sure, there are probably workarounds, but if every feature is nothing but a workaround, then you have a mess to maintain. You end up practically micromanaging each pixel. It makes assembler look easy.

It is very painful to make it act like a "desktop" GUI. JS+DOM+HTML *are* optimized for e-brochures and NOT business forms. You have to jump thru hoops for some of the otherwise simplest things (from a VB/Delphi perspective).

Something that would take 10 lines in VB/Delphi could end up being several hundred in JSDOMHTML.


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Post #36,652
by static
4/27/02 4:41:57 AM
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New Haven't tried IE6.
But it does sound like you're trying to make JS+DOM do something it isn't suitable for.

Wade.

"All around me are nothing but fakes
Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"
     Flashback - (drewk) - (32) - April 18, 2002, 03:13:26 PM EDT
         DOM is a lost cause - (tablizer) - (31) - April 24, 2002, 01:56:44 PM EDT
             I disagree. - (static) - (2) - April 26, 2002, 08:20:16 AM EDT
                 consistent bugs - (tablizer) - (1) - April 26, 2002, 10:42:39 PM EDT
                     Haven't tried IE6. - (static) - April 27, 2002, 04:41:57 AM EDT
             Perhaps you should read this: - (pwhysall) - (27) - April 28, 2002, 11:29:44 AM EDT
                 event driven - (tablizer) - (26) - May 1, 2002, 02:03:28 PM EDT
                     Quoting - (ChrisR) - (6) - May 1, 2002, 02:48:49 PM EDT
                         WYSIWYG - (tablizer) - (5) - May 3, 2002, 12:25:26 AM EDT
                             Use blockquote. - (pwhysall) - (4) - May 3, 2002, 12:44:36 AM EDT
                                 still not WYSIWYG - (tablizer) - (3) - May 3, 2002, 01:02:41 PM EDT
                                     Get over yourself - (pwhysall) - (2) - May 4, 2002, 02:15:47 AM EDT
                                         whatever - (tablizer) - (1) - May 4, 2002, 11:39:41 PM EDT
                                             Mistyped HTML... - (admin) - May 5, 2002, 09:50:33 PM EDT
                     GUIs over HTTP. - (pwhysall) - (8) - May 1, 2002, 03:31:32 PM EDT
                         Java applets == fat client (-nt) - (tablizer) - (7) - May 2, 2002, 12:30:12 PM EDT
                             Er, no. - (pwhysall) - (6) - May 3, 2002, 12:10:45 AM EDT
                                 Obese - (tablizer) - (5) - May 3, 2002, 12:22:36 AM EDT
                                     Still wrong. - (pwhysall) - (1) - May 3, 2002, 12:41:11 AM EDT
                                         You are missing the point. - (tablizer) - May 3, 2002, 01:13:38 PM EDT
                                     I've got a better example. - (static) - (2) - May 12, 2002, 08:39:37 AM EDT
                                         Exception to the rule - (tablizer) - (1) - May 13, 2002, 02:41:25 PM EDT
                                             Huh? - (imric) - May 13, 2002, 02:55:53 PM EDT
                     Re: event driven -> ASP.NET - (altmann) - (9) - May 1, 2002, 05:09:29 PM EDT
                         Real GUI's or bust - (tablizer) - (8) - May 2, 2002, 12:55:09 PM EDT
                             I realize... - (altmann) - (2) - May 2, 2002, 02:40:00 PM EDT
                                 question, and Master Image - (tablizer) - (1) - May 2, 2002, 08:51:28 PM EDT
                                     Similar to .NET - (altmann) - May 2, 2002, 11:07:54 PM EDT
                             I find CGI approach wonderfully limiting - (tseliot) - (4) - May 3, 2002, 02:28:33 PM EDT
                                 Agree for the most part... - (ChrisR) - May 3, 2002, 03:15:02 PM EDT
                                 Spank-A-Matic ? - (tablizer) - (2) - May 4, 2002, 11:54:32 PM EDT
                                     Sorry, I misunderstood. - (tseliot) - (1) - May 6, 2002, 12:42:07 PM EDT
                                         The pudding is not even in alpha - (tablizer) - May 7, 2002, 08:22:27 PM EDT

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