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New That's a crock
She HAS insurance, she might DIE from what she sees happening, she needs to BITE the bullet, go do the tests, and OWE the deductable. Maybe she pays it, maybe she doesn't, maybe she owes it for years until it gets written off and fucks with her credit,maybe a social worker shows up to visit her in the hospital to pull the funds from some other source.

These are all CHOICES.

Better that than than wait 6 months, as it gets worse, and have the cancer or infection or whatever get to the point of untreatable.

And then DIE.

Is LIFE worth it? Yes. Stop blaming others for the crappy generic situation and go get the tests done. Don't like taking any support funds from any other source? Maybe those genes weren't meant to continue. Pride is not worth life! For those that it is, then natural selection is still as work.

You either work in the system and survive, or don't and go it on your own. Try living in the woods with NO medical access for a few years. Maybe then you will appreciate what is available to us now, even if it is rediculously expensive and the insurance companies are skimming huge chunks.
Expand Edited by crazy July 16, 2012, 10:44:32 AM EDT
New So, she should ...
lose her house, skip meals for her family, "go live in the woods", in short, become completely impoverished because she became ill. No wonder you like the PPACA. That attitude is explicit within it.
New The PPACA is much better than nothing
As previously discussed with respect to pre-existing conditions.
Regards,
-scott
Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson.
New We'll see. I doubt it.
New You did not read what I wrote
Very bad medical symptom, with possible death in the future.
2 choices.
Ignore it and MAYBE you get better.
But maybe you DIE.
Diagnose and then treat, with a possible large financial hit.
Probability of living much higher, ie: the correct choice (for me).

Don't give me any crap about the money owed or the house lost. Yeah, sucks, BUT BETTER THAN DYING.

And to start off with, the initial tests might simply show something that can be either ignored or treated cheaply to start off with, but because she is delaying treatment, when she finally shows up at the emenrgency room it'll cost HUGE.

And at that point it will be her fault. YES! It Will.

BTW: I spent the final few months with my sister inlaw as she died an AGONIZING death. Lost my job over it when I refused to work from the funeral.

She ignored blood in the urine. Bladder cancer. Very treatable if caught on the first symptoms. Of course she ignored it. But when metasized, it became a death sentence, killing in about 3 months once it hits that stage.

Don't bother telling me I don't understand.
     Why PPACA is inexcusable, in a nutshell. - (mmoffitt) - (45)
         Corner cases are always there. - (Another Scott) - (39)
             A corner case? - (mmoffitt) - (38)
                 How many votes were there for single payer? - (Another Scott) - (37)
                     Hey... how many times... - (folkert) - (6)
                         Different animals. - (Another Scott) - (5)
                             I am not... - (folkert) - (4)
                                 Understood. Me neither; ditto. :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                                 In the absence of real leadership... - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                     I can agree with that... - (folkert)
                                     "real leadership"? - (crazy)
                     Your President killed Single Payer in the crib. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                         We've been through this ad nauseum... - (Another Scott)
                     See what happens when you let the option on the table? - (mmoffitt) - (27)
                         States are free to implement single payer if they want. - (Another Scott) - (26)
                             You've never been more wrong. - (mmoffitt) - (25)
                                 You do understand that Obama isn't king, right? - (Another Scott) - (24)
                                     Well, then, similarly - (hnick) - (21)
                                         Heh. - (Another Scott) - (20)
                                             Swing and Another miss. - (mmoffitt) - (13)
                                                 The votes weren't there. Reality intrudes again. -NT - (Another Scott) - (12)
                                                     Changing arguments mid-stream gets you only so far. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                                     Re: The votes weren't there. Reality intrudes again. - (Ashton) - (10)
                                                         So, can you or Scott help me out here? - (mmoffitt) - (9)
                                                             Obama isn't the problem - Congress is the problem. HTH. - (Another Scott) - (4)
                                                                 The question remains. - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                                                                     We'll see in November. I'm optimistic myself. YMMV. ;-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                                                         See post below. Either way, we all lose. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                                                             Meh. -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                             Actually no - (crazy) - (3)
                                                                 The "portion" was the determining factor. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                                                     IIRC, you didn't expect him to win IN in the first place. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                                         No dispute. I did not think he would win in 2008. - (mmoffitt)
                                             I suppose that's good to know. - (hnick) - (5)
                                                 Reread DeLong's recent post. - (Another Scott) - (4)
                                                     I remain sceptical - (hnick) - (3)
                                                         Who would have been your candidate in 2008? - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                                             Serious answer - (hnick) - (1)
                                                                 Thanks. I understand the disappointment. - (Another Scott)
                                     Really? I thought he could kill people whenever he wanted. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                         <sigh> -NT - (Another Scott)
         That's a crock - (crazy) - (4)
             So, she should ... - (mmoffitt) - (3)
                 The PPACA is much better than nothing - (malraux) - (1)
                     We'll see. I doubt it. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                 You did not read what I wrote - (crazy)

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